[Fmpro] Sound design, Boston Legal cues, and more...

[Les Hurdle]

>
On Oct 12, 2006, at 12:08 PM, Mark Northam wrote:

> Fascinating.
>
>
> Speaking of sounds, it's interesting to consider that while "ooh" and  
> "ah"
> are words in the dictionary like any other lyrics, ASCAP will not allow
> "background vocal" aka Feature Performance payment for instrumental  
> music
> with these words used, sung live or not.

You may remember I asked for clarification about the Woo Hoo song [75%  
instrumental]
http://homepage.mac.com/dkholm/iblog/B741959574/C1023324633/ 
E1290115092/index.html

I don't recall receiving any........... not even the PRO trolls on the  
list chimed in.
> But if other words are used, even
> imaginary words from made-up languages, they do treat these as  
> background
> vocals.

Apparently so

> Remember that the broadcasters make no
> differential between score and song when they pay the money IN to  
> ASCAP.

Nor time of day....... although the 'suits' at PRS are trying to change  
this in the UK.
>
>  "Boston Legal" are, I confirmed this week,
> happily paid as background vocals (automatic feature performances) by  
> SESAC.
> The listing on BMI's database lists a BMI co-writer for "Boston Legal  
> BG
> Cues" who presumably is also being paid background vocal (feature
> performance) rates for the music by BMI (if not, I'm sure he'd make a  
> hasty
> exit from BMI!). Assuming comparative rates to ASCAP, that's a 500%  
> increase
> in royalties for a one minute cue, and maybe even a larger increase  
> with the
> per-instance "short feature" rules that round up, not down, when it  
> comes to
> the timings of short vocal cues.

is this so ASCAP?
> veteran score composer Peter
> Myers (not to mention what it probably cost Myers!) whose score music  
> also
> contains vocalese by a live singer,

I can't find a Hoo in the dictionary.. HO and HO-Ha, but no HO or HOO
However, there is a WOO.............to coax or urge.
I do find n 'ah' and 3 versions of ha/hah........

No doubt ASCAP needs to clarify it's position on lyrics.

What are the rules at BMI/SESAC/PRS et al .. anyone?

Les


>
> Sadly, the intentions of the ASCAP Board and Senior Management (who no  
> doubt
> approved the expenditure of so much member money to battle Myers)  
> towards
> instrumental composers and their music have never been more apparent.
>
> Best,
>
> Mark Northam
>
> On 10/12/06 11:12 AM, "James Ryan" <jeryan at optonline.net> wrote:
>
>> We didn't get that far.  I have a bunch of sound design running on a  
>> cable
>> network, and in doing the cue sheets, I inquired.  They just said "we  
>> can't
>> license sound design, only music," so obviously they don't pay on  
>> something
>> they don't license.
>>
>> James
>
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