[Fmpro] CBS Sunday Morning

Les Hurdle leshurdle101 at sbcglobal.net
Mon Oct 16 12:16:00 GMT 2006


Surely, not only is there the issue of Mr Harrison being compensated 
for a work he composed, but how about the performer?

Who is monitoring YOUTUBE, the license money paid out to CBS et al and 
ho ho, money paid to composers etc?

No one has answered yet........... what is YOUTUBE [YT] a download, 
stream, what?

Who is responsible for gathering data in order to compensate composers 
and performers?

Where is the OFT etc

lesH

On Oct 16, 2006, at 12:59 AM, BVMedia-A d r i e l wrote:

> Eeer it's uke. There's a returning uke scene as well as steel guitar 
> (my
> instrument). This guy is at the top of the uke community.
>
> -A
>
>
>> From: Pete <musical411 at yahoo.com>
>> Reply-To: "fmpro at nxport.com" <fmpro at nxport.com>
>> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:45:32 -0700 (PDT)
>> To: "fmpro at nxport.com" <fmpro at nxport.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] CBS Sunday Morning
>>
>> Check out...
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9mEKMz2Pvo
>>
>> Somehow, I feel the world is a better place having
>> this video than not having it. It's just a shame with
>> all his talent he hasn't made enough money to buy a
>> bigger guitar by now.
>>
>> That's not to say that we shouldn't be compensated for
>> our creative contributions to a successful business
>> model.
>>
>> P e t e
>> S u r d o v a l
>>
>> --- Mark Northam <mark at gmdgroup.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If YouTube is considered streaming, ASCAP/BMI/SESAC
>>> should be screaming
>>> about it. Instead, silence. Let the publishers and
>>> the labels make the
>>> deals, I suppose, is the thinking.
>>>
>>> Why aren't the PRO's way out in front of this stuff?
>>>  Why aren't we seeing
>>> news stories about how the PROs are protecting their
>>> members and demanding
>>> that all these streaming services either pay a
>>> download or face lawsuits?
>>> Instead, we hear about some minor nightclub owner
>>> facing the wrath of ASCAP
>>> over a few Bob Marley song and watch ASCAP spend
>>> what must be 100s of
>>> thousands of dollars to prove that music with live
>>> vocals (Peter Myers') is
>>> not actually a vocal performance. One must wonder
>>> who is setting the
>>> priorities down at ASCAP, and that falls directly on
>>> the shoulders of Senior
>>> Mgmt and the Board of Directors.
>>>
>>> Compared to the losses to writers from
>>> downloads/streaming, no performance
>>> royalties for movie theatres, the nightclub stuff is
>>> truly insignificant.
>>>
>>> My guess: the publishers run the PROs, and if the
>>> publishers want to make a
>>> special deal, they'll make sure the PROs remain
>>> waiting in the wings. If a
>>> cause doesn't serve the interests of the publishers,
>>> the PROs sit on their
>>> hands. Amazing. Only underscores the need for NEW
>>> board members at ASCAP to
>>> start doing something other than the publishers'
>>> bidding.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Mark Northam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/15/06 3:02 PM, "Les Hurdle"
>>> <leshurdle101 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Don't know how many of you good folk get up early
>>> on a Sunday morning,
>>>> but for me the prog.  'Sunday Morning' today was
>>> of interest.
>>>>
>>>> So, Google buys YOUTUBE for about $1.6B.
>>>> Glossed over was the fact CBS, Sony, BMG have
>>> worked out licensing
>>>> deals with 'YOUTUBE".. why only mention those
>>> three???
>>>>
>>>> Seriously, how will you be paid for the movie clip
>>> or tv show with your
>>>> music in it, how about the song?
>>>> Is YOUTUBE a broadcast, a stream, a download, a
>>> hybrid right..........
>>>> something new?
>>>>
>>>> How will that expensive Watermark, Mediaguide,
>>> Shazam process work for
>>>> you [snigger]?
>>>>
>>>> Just suppose YOUTUBE is to be the way of the
>>> future, allegedly one of
>>>> the vids has been downloaded [they used the D
>>> word] 30 million times,
>>>> hmmmmm they know this, does you PRO know, your
>>> publisher?
>>>>
>>>> Who will tell CBS et al the music they licensed
>>> was yours?????
>>>>
>>>> How will CBS et al know who to pay out of the
>>> license money they
>>>> receive?
>>>>
>>>> How about in your neck of the woods, not just the
>>> USA?
>>>>
>>>> I am I getting this all wrong, as some political
>>> folk on this list
>>>> accused me of 10 years ago re downloads and
>>> publishers who cream off
>>>> the mechanical royalty..............  watch out
>>> for those rosy WFH
>>>> deals !!!
>>>>
>>>> LesH
>>
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