[Fmpro] FMPRO Digest, Vol 17, Issue 18
Fernando Rivas
rivas2750 at comcast.net
Thu Sep 21 16:04:03 GMT 2006
Peter,
This sounds like an elegant solution and in line with thoughts I've been
having for some time. When you have your libraries in the PC how do you call
up the sounds that you are sequencing on the Mac? In other words how do you
coordinate both computers to achieve a single purpose?
FR
On 9/21/06 10:47 AM, "Peter Alexander" <lacomposers at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm Peter Alexander and Mark Northam asked me to join in and make some
> comments about the orchestral library discussions. First, I
> coordinated the beta test team for VSL for both the First and Pro
> Editions, and, through TrueSpec systems, sponsored the world premier
> in Los Angeles of the Pro Edition. I own both libraries and the new
> Virtual Instruments. I also own QLSO Platinum Original, and last year,
> co-produced the MSO for E-MU. I sequence on a Mac Dual G5 using Logic
> after moving from Cubase on the PC. I own TrueSpec Systems and we're
> dealers for most of the libraries.
>
> As a composer, I'm producing my own dramatic work called The Good
> Samaritan which I'm recording in Nashville in Early October, and then
> doing the underscore for it.
>
> Based on the system integration issues I see with all the libraries
> (since I have them all), I think there's an alternative solution that
> I haven't seen in this thread, and it will probably want to make some
> throw up.
>
> My suggestion is, as I'm doing, continue sequencing on the Mac, but
> consider putting the orchestral libraries on a PC. With the exception
> of GigaStudio, the PC is very consistent, and you can get smaller
> shuttle systems with 2GB of RAM. Depending on how many audio outs you
> want per machine, you can use the E-MU 0404 card with a pair of audio
> outs and a MIDI interface on it which only costs $99.00 and it's a
> good sounding card. For an internal mixing board, that can also
> address large memory, Forte from Brainspawn is a very good solution.
>
> EastWest is also down in price, significantly, on QLSO original. I
> have a number of EW libraries (Symphonic Choirs, Storm Drums,
> Bosendorfer P90, etc.) and I think my decision to stay with the PC for
> VSTi's has been a good one over the past two years.
>
> Now, to Vienna.
>
> If you want Vienna Instruments, I would keep those on the PC. But for
> the Vienna Horizon Series, that could be another issue. You would
> have to consult with Native Instruments and see which version of OSX
> Kontakt 2 works best on. You then have to match that with your current
> version of your sequencing program, etc., to make sure you have proper
> system integration. Once achieved, you could consider looking at those
> Vienna Horizon libraries that operate in Kontakt. Here, K2 scripting
> completely replaces the Vienna Performance Tool. You would want to
> spend some time at the VSL forum (www.vsl.co.at).
>
> A forum that discusses these issues quite a bit is the
> www.vi-control.net/forum which has a lot of working composers over
> there, including myself.
>
> EastWest also has an excellent forum at http://www.soundsonline-forums.com/.
>
> I was also the late Henry Mancini's tech. So I want to say this, as
> unpopular as it may be. Time is money. It would be great to have
> everything integrated into one machine and into one platform. I agree.
> But my experience is that you set up your software on the platforms
> that are stable and consistent and don't represent a moving target for
> developers.
>
> I work with all the major companies, and most of the VSTi's and other
> virtual instruments work best on the PC. A few others (like 3-6 that I
> know professionally) have taken the time to spec out the software and
> put VSTi's on a dedicated Mac. However, we're talking about a
> handful of composers.
>
> I hope this helps. I'll be lurking around if anyone has questions.
> Also, for a review on Vienna, see www.soniccontrol.com/reviews
>
> Peter Alexander
>
>
>
>
>
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>> 1. Re: Which Sample Library? (Steve Buckman)
>> 2. Re: Which Sample Library? (Les Hurdle)
>> 3. looking for space (rubinomusic at aol.com)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 08:25:05 -0400
>> From: Steve Buckman <buckoproductions at rcn.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] Which Sample Library?
>> To: <fmpro at nxport.com>
>> Message-ID: <C136AB60.1BA88%buckoproductions at rcn.com>
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>> Thanks everyone the info about the new intel MACs. I plan to buy a intel
>> desktop so I would have to wait until more good stuff comes out. I am using
>> DP, not Logic and leaning towards EW to start when everything calms down
>> with compatibility.
>>
>> Steve
>> http://www.buckoproductions.com
>>
>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 23:08:23 -0500
>>> From: Rolin Mains <rmains at bellsouth.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] Which Sample Library?
>>> To: <fmpro at nxport.com>
>>> Message-ID: <C13385E7.226B%rmains at bellsouth.net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>>>
>>> i just bought a macbook pro with the intel core duo processor in June.
>>> (btw, with all due respect to beethoven and stravinsky, while they had their
>>> hands full writing symphonies and large scale ballets, i doubt they were too
>>> concerned with their CPU speed and whether their OS was compatible the
>>> newest software releases...bit i digress)
>>>
>>> here is your fair warning: as of today, sept 17, the only sample library to
>>> my knowledge that can be used on a macbook pro or anything with a cor intel
>>> duo processor (universal binary) is MOTUs symphonic instrument and ONLY with
>>> logic pro 7.
>>>
>>> oddly, DP5, which just recently upgraded to be universal binary compatible,
>>> is STILL not compatible with its own symphonic instrument. (SI runs in DP
>>> via the MAS bundle, which is NOT universal binary compatible yet. according
>>> to MOTU, that update is "forthcoming.") right now SI's universal binary
>>> compatibility is limited to its AU bundle which is why logic can run it and
>>> DP5 can't. (clear as mud?)
>>>
>>> EastWest/Native Instruments, OTOH, have promised an upgrade in the third
>>> quarter of this year...whenever the hell that is...and it isn't yet. might
>>> be tomorrow...further, east west's mid-tier libraries are changing from
>>> using Kompakt (which is what EWSQL shipped with, to Kontakt 2). according
>>> to east west, they will provide Kontakt to current owners free of charge. i
>>> don't know what the higher level libraries use...but i don't think any of
>>> east west's stuff is universal compatible yet.
>>>
>>> so, bottom line: if you intend to upgrade your mac to a G5 intel desk top,
>>> you should be fine since that processor evidently runs PowerPC stuff fine.
>>> but if you go macbook pro or anything with an intel core duo processor, you
>>> will have to either a) buy logic pro 7 and use SI; or b) wait until everyone
>>> comes on line...which, i guess, could be soon. i'm hoping so...i am dying
>>> to use the east west stuff along with the garritan and the SI...
>>>
>>> beethoven just had to worry if his pen had ink. sheesh, how hard can that
>>> be?
>>
>>
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>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 07:29:26 -0700
>> From: Les Hurdle <leshurdle101 at sbcglobal.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] Which Sample Library?
>> To: fmpro at nxport.com
>> Message-ID: <5a3e73b887f9d426f1a159304aed1082 at sbcglobal.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>>
>> Advice I've been given by the local Mac guru is to only buy the
>> tower[s] for ops like DP FCP etc
>>
>> Les
>>
>> On Sep 20, 2006, at 5:25 AM, Steve Buckman wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks everyone the info about the new intel MACs. I plan to buy a
>>> intel
>>> desktop so I would have to wait until more good stuff comes out. I am
>>> using
>>> DP, not Logic and leaning towards EW to start when everything calms
>>> down
>>> with compatibility.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>> http://www.buckoproductions.com
>>>
>>>> Message: 3
>>>> Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 23:08:23 -0500
>>>> From: Rolin Mains <rmains at bellsouth.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] Which Sample Library?
>>>> To: <fmpro at nxport.com>
>>>> Message-ID: <C13385E7.226B%rmains at bellsouth.net>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>>>>
>>>> i just bought a macbook pro with the intel core duo processor in June.
>>>> (btw, with all due respect to beethoven and stravinsky, while they
>>>> had their
>>>> hands full writing symphonies and large scale ballets, i doubt they
>>>> were too
>>>> concerned with their CPU speed and whether their OS was compatible the
>>>> newest software releases...bit i digress)
>>>>
>>>> here is your fair warning: as of today, sept 17, the only sample
>>>> library to
>>>> my knowledge that can be used on a macbook pro or anything with a cor
>>>> intel
>>>> duo processor (universal binary) is MOTUs symphonic instrument and
>>>> ONLY with
>>>> logic pro 7.
>>>>
>>>> oddly, DP5, which just recently upgraded to be universal binary
>>>> compatible,
>>>> is STILL not compatible with its own symphonic instrument. (SI runs
>>>> in DP
>>>> via the MAS bundle, which is NOT universal binary compatible yet.
>>>> according
>>>> to MOTU, that update is "forthcoming.") right now SI's universal
>>>> binary
>>>> compatibility is limited to its AU bundle which is why logic can run
>>>> it and
>>>> DP5 can't. (clear as mud?)
>>>>
>>>> EastWest/Native Instruments, OTOH, have promised an upgrade in the
>>>> third
>>>> quarter of this year...whenever the hell that is...and it isn't yet.
>>>> might
>>>> be tomorrow...further, east west's mid-tier libraries are changing
>>>> from
>>>> using Kompakt (which is what EWSQL shipped with, to Kontakt 2).
>>>> according
>>>> to east west, they will provide Kontakt to current owners free of
>>>> charge. i
>>>> don't know what the higher level libraries use...but i don't think
>>>> any of
>>>> east west's stuff is universal compatible yet.
>>>>
>>>> so, bottom line: if you intend to upgrade your mac to a G5 intel
>>>> desk top,
>>>> you should be fine since that processor evidently runs PowerPC stuff
>>>> fine.
>>>> but if you go macbook pro or anything with an intel core duo
>>>> processor, you
>>>> will have to either a) buy logic pro 7 and use SI; or b) wait until
>>>> everyone
>>>> comes on line...which, i guess, could be soon. i'm hoping so...i am
>>>> dying
>>>> to use the east west stuff along with the garritan and the SI...
>>>>
>>>> beethoven just had to worry if his pen had ink. sheesh, how hard can
>>>> that
>>>> be?
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 03:23:45 -0400
>> From: rubinomusic at aol.com
>> Subject: [Fmpro] looking for space
>> To: fmpro at nxport.com
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>> Hi - I'm looking for some space to use for a midi composing studio. I'm
>> in a bedroom in my condo now but I'm at the point where more room,
>> isolation, acoustical control and sheer professionalism is called for.
>> I've been searching on craigslist and such but I have yet to come
>> across too many rooms that seem to fit my purposes. I would immensely
>> appreciate any suggestions or leads! What I'm looking for is about
>> 300-400 square feet, sound insulated or at least otherwise isolated
>> enough not to bother anyone close by, somewhere in the proximity of the
>> Santa Monica, Brentwood area but farther is ok. If it could also come
>> with 24 hour catering, a masseuss, and be under $14 per month that
>> would be ok as well. =)
>>
>> It's been a tough search finding a place - mostly office buildings with
>> no sound isolation, tiny closet sized editing bays, or large, complete
>> recording facilities when all I need is a composing room. Anyone else
>> feel my pain?
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