[Fmpro] New British Royalty

[Pete]

I agree Claude, dropping from 100% to 3% is way too
drastic. Giving shows from 6pm to Midnight double
scale seems fairer, although that may be too drastic
as well.

What would seem fair to me is to go by an average
viewing audience. If twice as may people are generally
watching from 6pm to Midnight, perhaps the new UK rate
is justified.

Best,
P e t e
S u r d o v a l

--- Claude Castonguay <c.castonguay at videotron.ca>
wrote:

> Very few stations in 2007 still have non-programming
> hours. And  
> unless it's a typo the new rate says from midnight
> to 6 PM, so this  
> means everything except prime-time gets cut.
> 
> SOCAN has recently passed a similar bill, it touches
> music on cable  
> from midnight till 6 a.m. My trimestrial checks for
> a very popular  
> show have gone from 3000$ to 450$. I must note that
> this show also  
> plays during prime-time and that the cut from 12am
> to 6 am is so  
> drastic(went from 100% to 3 % i think) in Canada
> that even though the  
> same show still plays in prime time i lose 83% of
> what i used to get  
> the preceding trimesters.
> 
> All this because of an arbitrary decision from the
> board.
> 
> I am currently discussing with Socan, they are
> receptive to my  
> worries. We'll see...
> 
> My point is, we're compelled to accept low up-front
> fees on the  
> premise that we'll make up for it on the back-end.
> Less and less so.  
> This business is becoming nothing more than a
> lottery ticket and the  
> odds are getting  lower and lower each year.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Claude
> 
> 
> On 07-04-05, at 23:25, Pete wrote:
> 
> > So, you believe an automated playlist of music
> > (muzak?) running during non-programming hours to
> > virtually a blank screen and no audience has the
> same
> > "value" as the score to a hit primetime UK show
> with
> > tons of viewers? It could be the same piece of
> music,
> > it's the *use* that has a different "value".
> >
> > I feel it's fair to make a distinction and pay a
> > different rate for these different uses.
> Obviously,
> > you disagree. Anyone else have an opinion or
> thoughts?
> >
> > Best,
> > P e t e
> > S u r d o v a l
> >
> >
> > --- Les Hurdle <leshurdle101 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Hi Pete,
> >>
> >> Glad to see you have air in the tyres !
> >>
> >> PLEASE NOTE........ PRS does not use the word
> rate,
> >> they use the word VALUE... a whole different
> deal.
> >>
> >> See below
> >>
> >> Les
> >>
> >> Reply-To: mail at composersforafairdeal.com
> >>
> >> Dear Composer
> >>
> >> The PRS board are proposing to slash broadcast
> >> royalites by
> >> 50% for any music broadcast between midnight and
> >> 6pm.
> >> Composers whose work is used between 6pm and
> >> Midnight
> >> will
> >> be rewarded with double royalties. We believe
> this
> >> is
> >> incredibly unfair and will seriously harm the
> income
> >> of the
> >> vast majority of composers and publishers.
> >>
> >> If you feel strongly about this issue and are
> >> concerned that
> >> your income will be affected (it almost certainly
> >> will) a
> >> website has been set up that allows you to voice
> >> your
> >> concern and let the board of PRS know how the
> >> majority
> >> of
> >> members feel about these proposals.
> >>
> >>
> >> **************************************
> >>
> >> http://www.composersforafairdeal.com
> >>
> >> **************************************
> >>
> >>
> >> We also STRONGLY urge you to address your
> concerns
> >> to
> >> PRS
> >> directly.
> >>
> >> Mr Ellis Rich
> >> The Performing Rights Society
> >> 29-33 Berners Street
> >> London W1T 3AB
> >>
> >> And make your feelings known to the PRS Board at
> the
> >> following emails:
> >>
> >> The Alliance managing director:
> >> Steve Porter (
> steve.porter at mcps-prs-alliance.co.uk
> >> )
> >>
> >> The publisher board members are:
> >>
> >> Ellis Rich ( International Music Network -
> >> erich at independentmusicgroup.com ),
> >> Andrew King ( Mute Song - andrew at mutehq.co.uk ),
> >> Catherine Bell ( Chrysalis -
> >> catherine.bell at chrysalis.com ),
> >> William Booth ( EMI - abooth at emimusicpub.com ),
> >> Chris Butler ( Novello/Music Sales -
> >> chris.butler at musicsales.co.uk ),
> >> Paul Curran ( BMG - paul.curran at bmg.com ),
> >> Jane Dyball ( Warner Chappell -
> >> jane.dyball at warnerchappell.com ),
> >> Nigel Elderton ( Peermusic -
> peermusic at peermusic.com
> >> ),
> >> Andy Heath ( Heatwave - andyheath at beggars.com ),
> >> Stuart Hornall ( Hornall Brothers -
> >> stuart at hobro.co.uk
> >> ),
> >> Richard King ( Faber - information at fabermusic.com
> )
> >>
> >> The composer board members are:
> >>
> >> David Bedford ( dvbmus at aol.com),
> >> Peter Callander ( Callandermusic at aol.com),
> >> Lynsey De Paul (
> >> lynsey.depaul at mcps-prs-alliance.co.uk
> >> ),
> >> David Ferguson ( david at britishacademy.com ),
> >> Guy Fletcher ( guy at mcsmusic.com ),
> >> Nicky Graham (
> nick.graham at mcps-prs-alliance.co.uk
> >> ),
> >> Professor Edward Gregson (
> >> Edward.gregson at mcps-prs-alliance.co.uk ),
> >> www.edwardgregson.com <
> http://www.edwardgregson.com
> >>>
> >>
> >> Mitch Murray (
> mitch.murray at mcps-prs-alliance.co.uk
> >> ),
> >> Andrew Neve ( andrew.neve at mcps-prs-alliance.co.uk
> ),
> >> Francis Shaw ( francis at francis-shaw.com ),
> >> Nigel Beaham-Powell  Deputy Chairman (Writer) (
> >> nigel at ddmp.demon.co.uk )
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- Pete <musical411 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> It's the same amount of money paid out, only
> it's
> >>> just
> >>> being distributed differently. Since we both do
> >>> library music, I'm pretty confident that our
> music
> >>> will be pretty much evenly distributed
> throughout
> >>> the
> >>> day and night programs. Unless there is
> something
> >>> about UK TV that I'm not aware of.
> 
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