[Fmpro] "without payment to you"

[Dana from Serious Vanity Music]

Thank you so much, James!  You've definitely given me some food for thought 
today!  I'd been bumping up my buyout fees for most things (I do a lot 
eLearning and that sort of thing) but more ad opportunities have been coming 
in of late, and I think you've given me good reason to start looking at my 
union options. :)

Dana Detrick-Clark
Serious Vanity Music: http://www.seriousvanity.com
The Anatomy of an Album: http://album-anatomy.livejournal.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Ryan" <jeryan at optonline.net>
To: <fmpro at nxport.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Fmpro] "without payment to you"


Not always true, Dana.  The residuals for "real" union jobs can be
substantially larger than the initial payment, and if you do a non-union
buyout, the initial fee is all you get.  A friend of mine did a minor
character VO for Burger King a few years back and made almost $.5mil in
resids.  This is the deep end of the pool, but at the shallower end, I have
a Captain Morgan silly spot running now that I got paid about $250 for the
session as a background singer (lower rate than VO) and have made almost
$3,000 in resids.

You may reduce your number of auditions/leads, but you stand to greatly
increase your income if you get a hit or two.

J

On 4/11/07 3:40 PM, "Dana from Serious Vanity Music"
<dana at seriousvanity.com> wrote:

> You have a point there, and I think this might be a way in which the voice
> over world and composing world differ.  I'm non-union for voice, as was 
> this
> audition, but rates don't generally tend to differ much between the two, 
> and
> many leads pay the same for either kind of talent.  It's one of the 
> reasons
> I've dragged my feet at joining any unions, as I don't stand to gain much
> more pay per job, and my amount of auditions and leads would go down.
>
> Dana Detrick-Clark
> Serious Vanity Music: http://www.seriousvanity.com
> The Anatomy of an Album: http://album-anatomy.livejournal.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Ryan" <jeryan at optonline.net>
> To: <fmpro at nxport.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 1:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] "without payment to you"
>
>
> That's because VO's are supervised and regulated by UNIONS!  (AFTRA & SAG)
>
>
> On 4/11/07 2:14 PM, "Dana from Serious Vanity Music"
> <dana at seriousvanity.com> wrote:
>
>> Ha!  I voice-over auditioned for a web commercial for the same project
>> yesterday.  Funny how they were offering more for that!
>>
>> Dana Detrick-Clark
>> Serious Vanity Music: http://www.seriousvanity.com
>> The Anatomy of an Album: http://album-anatomy.livejournal.com
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "James Ryan" <jeryan at optonline.net>
>> To: <fmpro at nxport.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 12:48 PM
>> Subject: [Fmpro] "without payment to you"
>>
>>
>> Looks like songwriters might be starting to feel the pain of devaluation
>> too.  Follow this link to see what Geffen/Lionsgate are offering for your
>> song if used in their new movie, ³Bratz².......
>>
>> http://www.bratzsoundtrack.com/
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