[Fmpro] gigastudio4/ GVI4

Tue Dec 4 02:31:55 GMT 2007

Hey Chris,
First of all, the VSL also runs native on the EXS.  That was the  
version I used up until the Vienna Instruments came out.  The EXS  
version works great, doesn't take forever to load and never crashes.   
Actually I can't recall ever having a crash associated with the EXS.    
Everything else, but not the old steam powered EXS.   I'll bet you  
could get VSL or Ilio to just give you the EXS instruments as a free  
crossgrade.  It's the samples that are the big deal and you are a  
licensed owner of them.  The giga samples can be decoded and opened  
easily by the EXS, so that part, though time consuming will be  
relatively easy.  The only hitch is that in decoding Giga samples,  
it's a copy process, so you may have to copy a batch, erase a batch,  
copy, erase, etc.  so you don't need another terabyte of disk space.   
You will also want to get Redmatica's EXSManager.  If you don't use  
it, the VSL stuff will take a week to load.  With it, it's very snappy.

Vienna Instruments run as a separate application linked to a plugin.   
The plug instantiation boots the VI engine which then links to Logic  
and you're good to go.  The advantage is it uses a separate VI  
application and separate memory from Logic and can therefore get it's  
max without having to share with Logic.

As for Giga 4...... be very careful of any *.0 application.  These  
programs are massively complicated and no amount of beta testing is  
going to get all the bugs out.  Therefore, if you're working on  
commissioned projects that are going to a client, 4.1 or 4.2 would  
probably be a better bet, especially since as you say, you're dealing  
with a cranky company that's not in such a big hurry to make everybody  
happy.

Bottom line, consider crossgrading to the EXS version first;   
EXSManager is $105 and the best investment I've ever made for a Logic  
utility.

Best,
James

On Dec 3, 2007, at 5:14 PM, Chris Alpiar wrote:

> Hmm I am using many libraries but mostly the Vienna Symphonic  
> Library, full
> pro edition, which was only made for use with GigaStudio. As it is  
> still
> very expensive to upgrade to their Vienna Instruments, its not on  
> the table
> for me at this time. Hopefully sometime relatively soon, but I am  
> for now
> stuck with the older version. How do you run Vienna Instruments  
> without
> Giga? I don't quite understand how you do that, is it its own  
> sampler engine
> now? Or are you using another sampler engine like Kontakt or Halion or
> something?
>
> My setup started as gigastudio 160 v2.5
> It was pretty klunky, with lots of quirks like having to wait 3  
> minutes
> after xp loaded to start GS and having to wait 30 minutes for a  
> performance
> to load... But hey VSL was so awesome
>
> Then I upgraded to giga 3 orchestra
>
> And a nightmare ensued, working with more then 2g of ram impossible  
> but my
> comp had 4 gigs. All of my .gsv files would crash when loading, the  
> only
> option was to rebuild ALL my gsv files by hand. Tascam support was  
> not only
> non-responsive, but they were downright nasty and just said it was  
> my fault
> for not backing up my nearly terabite of samples before I used the  
> tool in
> GS3 to "upgrade samples to GS3 format". That's the beginning, there  
> are many
> other problems and it's a lot more complex but AGH I really have never
> recovered from that experience. And still today I have crashes with  
> GS3 at
> least 1 or 2 a week. Probably because I had to use that hack  
> freeware tool
> to manually configure my RAM adresses, but who knows, tascam sure  
> doesn't
> care.
>
> So my hope and excitement are that GS4 and a 64 bit OS MIGHT make  
> all my
> problems go away and that my giga setup will become stable and it  
> will erase
> probably 30-40% of my daily life stress involving my work... I have my
> fingers crossed but it seems just too easy for it to all get better
> miraculously =(
>
> Chris
>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: fmpro-bounces+chris=alpiar.com at nxport.com
>> [mailto:fmpro-bounces+chris=alpiar.com at nxport.com] On Behalf
>> Of James Ryan
>> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 4:51 PM
>> To: fmpro at nxport.com
>> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] gigastudio4/ GVI4
>>
>>
>> On Dec 3, 2007, at 4:39 PM, Chris Alpiar wrote:
>>
>>> Ok maybe ill go with xp 64 bit then. I just have these computers
>>> running gigastudio 3 orchestra only, no other apps ever, so
>> the idea
>>> is just to get
>>> 64 bit OS and get more ram so giga can run more more more haha. Not
>>> sure if vista or xp 64 is the way to go yet, but my
>> question is more
>>> regarding gigastudio then windows ;)
>>>
>>> Thanks for the reply!
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>
>> You're welcome.  The usual wisdom is don't change too many
>> things at once.  If it all goes wrong, you won't know where
>> to start looking for the problem.  I'm using Vienna
>> Instruments for my orchestral stuff and have not yet run out
>> of memory or processing.  I've pushed the processing to the
>> red line, but always have been able to get in just under it.
>> Never tried Giga..  Hope the new version rocks.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> James
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