[Fmpro] HGTV

[Mark Northam]

As long as we're talking about places where composers get hired as "labor"
only, let's not forget about all the ad & jingle "houses" where they have a
composer on staff who gets hourly pay and no cue sheet credit at all...

Mark Northam


On 7/9/07 6:43 AM, "leshurdle" <leshurdle at avradionet.com> wrote:

> BUT........... does Scripps as a company get the publisher & composer
> $$$'s when the shows are aired overseas?


On 7/9/07 6:43 AM, "leshurdle" <leshurdle at avradionet.com> wrote:

> Just learned composers in India are paid approx $160k for scoring a
> movie.
> 6 songs and 'waffle'  as the gent put it.
> 
> How does that compare with Scripps pay.
> 
> BUT........... does Scripps as a company get the publisher & composer
> $$$'s when the shows are aired overseas?
> 
> You guys are nuts to even contemplate this gig.......... of-course it
> is all Chris' fault ;-)
> 
> L
> 
> On Jul 9, 2007, at 5:12 AM, Geoff Koch wrote:
> 
>> This is the kind of thing composers must really say "no" to.  Scripps
>> appears to be not only trying to save money, but is trying to turn
>> composition into a purely labor-only endeavor.  When someone hires a
>> composer, they're not paying so much for sweat, but primarily for
>> the mind.
>> Making composers into day laborers hurts the value of the latter.
>> 
>> Let's encourage this "push" at Scripps to go nowhere.
>> 
>> 
>> On 7/8/07 9:00 AM, "Merritt Music Productions LLC"
>> <chris at merrittmusic.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> That is what they are pushing for.  It's because they have 3
>>> composing rooms
>>> that are going unused, and they know they can really screw over
>>> composers
>>> and get 'em very cheap by making them come in.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: fmpro-bounces+chris=merrittmusic.com at nxport.com
>>> [mailto:fmpro-bounces+chris=merrittmusic.com at nxport.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Geoff
>>> Koch
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 8:12 AM
>>> To: fmpro at nxport.com
>>> Subject: SPAM -> Re: [Fmpro] HGTV
>>> 
>>> Chris -- I have heard that Scripps is no longer even using
>>> "independent"
>>> composers for their custom work.  All such work now requires the
>>> composer to
>>> come on site, compose/produce the music using Scripps' facilities,
>>> and the
>>> composer is paid HOURLY for his work -- no more per-project fees.
>>> 
>>> Can you verify?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 7/8/07 2:23 AM, "Merritt Music Productions LLC"
>>> <chris at merrittmusic.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Scripps has always used libraries in their shows.  Almost all of
>>>> them...
>>>> 
>>>> I bet that pump audio is not charging a penny more for Scripps.
>>>> Most
>>>> companies like that see the royalty as icing and the direct fee
>>>> as butter.
>>>> 
>>>> cm
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: fmpro-bounces+chris=merrittmusic.com at nxport.com
>>>> [mailto:fmpro-bounces+chris=merrittmusic.com at nxport.com] On
>>>> Behalf Of
>>>> Kirbyko3 at aol.com
>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 12:07 AM
>>>> To: fmpro at nxport.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] HGTV
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> In a message dated 7/8/07 12:03:46 AM, musical411 at yahoo.com writes:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Congrats on the Foodnetwork Star Placement. I've been
>>>>> watching the show, where's it been used on the show?
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Pete, I have to admit:   I have never seen the show, so I'm not
>>>> really
>>> sure.
>>>> 
>>>> I stopped watching Food Network yeeeears ago when they took off
>>>> the Too
>>>> Hot
>>>> Tamales!   I loved the chef shows, but when they switched to that
>>>> new
>>> format
>>>> 
>>>> of "Food 911"-type shows, they lost me.    But hey, I'm thrilled
>>>> that they
>>>> used my stuff -- and that they're letting libraries in through
>>>> their door
>>>> now.
>>>> 
>>>> Kerry
>>>> 
>>>> 
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