[Fmpro] For Lynne Simple Hello

Mon May 7 14:15:01 GMT 2007

Lynne thanks for your great willingness to iron out our old bear Les ;)
However while your Wikipedia description has validity there is more nuance
then that. And how this list refers to it is quite different I believe.
Technically all songwriters are composers but not all composers write songs.
But I think in our world composer generally refers to someone that writes
for orchestra, the underscore of a film or tv show, the stuff that requires
years and years of technical and theoretical training as well as a thorough
understanding and interpretation of all kinds of western and ethnic musics
and the culture and philosophies they were created in. And it is that
person, with fingers bleeding from writing 80 piece orchestral scores, or at
least condensed versions for their orchestrator, that is getting paid 20% of
what songwriters with vocals get from ascap. And only in America is this
happening. As for the songwriter, the title has more of a "pop" flavor and
while some songwriters have as much skill as many composers, there are many
more who are hacks, with todays technology using loop based software to say
they "wrote" something when they actually just drag and dropped something
that someone else wrote and slapped some lyrics on top. At least that's my
take on it :)

-----Original Message-----
From: fmpro-bounces+chris=alpiar.com at nxport.com
[mailto:fmpro-bounces+chris=alpiar.com at nxport.com] On Behalf Of Lynne T.
Conte
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 2:44 AM
To: fmpro at nxport.com
Subject: Re: [Fmpro] For Lynne Simple Hello

Les, you ask "do you consider all 'composers' to be songwriters?"

A *composer* is a person who writes
music<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music>.
The term refers particularly to someone who writes music in some type
of musical
notation <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_notation>; thus, allowing
others to perform <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Performance> the music. This
distinguishes the composer from a
musician<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musician>who
improvises <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Improvisation> or plays an
instrument <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrument>. The term can also
include someone who writes electroacoustic
music<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroacoustic_music>which may or
may not be transcribed into some form of musical notation. (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composer)

Musically Yours,

Lynne

On 5/6/07, leshurdle <leshurdle at avradionet.com> wrote:
>
> So Lynne.......... do you consider all 'composers' to be songwriters?
>
> les
>
> On May 6, 2007, at 1:13 AM, Lynne T. Conte wrote:
>
> > Joel,
> >
> > More information that I researched:
> >
> > "A  music publisher deals in the marketing and commercial
> > exploitation of
> > songs. Originally, the term referred to publishers of
> > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheet_music>sheet
> > music, but this has changed largely over the years, and today's music
> > publishers rarely deal with printed music or scores. (Those who do
> > have come
> > to be known as "music print publishers".) Music publishers
> > regularly handle
> > and control the rights to transcriptions and uses of musical works,
> > and act
> > on behalf of  <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songwriter>songwriters in
> > matters of distributing royalties and protection against
> > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright>copyright
> > infringement."
> >
> > Musically Yours,
> >
> > Lynne/Talent Manager
> > Conte's Networking Communications
> >
> > On 5/5/07, onephatcat at earthlink.net <onephatcat at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> short of a "total information awareness" 1984 scenario, there is
> >> no way to
> >> know beyond a certain level. Many groups would like to know every
> >> time you
> >> play a song on your computer or cd player, and some software
> >> actually tracks
> >> this info and sends it back to the mothership, enabling marketing
> >> people to
> >> target content to you based on your listening habits. In Itunes,
> >> this is
> >> optional. (if you don't like it, don't turn on the Ministore.)
> >>
> >> If govt's have their way they'll know evertime you sneeze or take the
> >> lord's name in vein. So, be careful what you wish for. Best
> >> systems are
> >> based on some reasonable methods of tracking public performances
> >> (however
> >> that is defined), and some level of trust. Of course, there will
> >> always be
> >> performances that are missed. What you really want is for the data
> >> tha is
> >> tracked to be properly compensated and you want the methods and
> >> data to be
> >> public knowledge so the system is compensating people correctly.
> >>
> >> Joel
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>
> >> From:  leshurdle <leshurdle at avradionet.com>
> >> Subj:  Re: [Fmpro] Simple Hello
> >> Date:  Sat May 5, 2007 7:04 am
> >> Size:  707 bytes
> >> To:  fmpro at nxport.com
> >>
> >>
> >> On May 4, 2007, at 11:06 PM, Lynne T. Conte wrote:
> >>
> >>> Article 14 of the Rome Convention set a minimum term for the
> >>> protection of
> >>> performers' rights of twenty years from the end of the year in
> >>> which the
> >>> performance was made: the TRIPS Agreement (Art. 14.5) has extended
> >>> this to
> >>> fifty years. In the European
> >>
> >> I believe the USA was not a signatory to the Rome convention?
> >>
> >> The real bottom line is how will YOU know when your clients work has
> >> been used?
> >>
> >> L
> >>
> >>
> >>
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