[Fmpro] are loops ok to use? - Beatles

[Pete]

All the Beatles played with tape loops (except maybe
Ringo). While with the Beatles, George Harrison even
made an electronic album with his Moog. They would
often use sound effects albums for things like the jet
plane in Back in the USSR, animal sounds on Sgt
Pepper, etc. (Vic and Les might have some more direct
knowledge on this subject). 

I used to wonder which Beatle played the flamenco
guitar part in the beginning of Bungalow Bill. Who had
those chops? Turns out that was just a
Mellotron tape loop. They just hit one key and it
played the whole part. Sound familiar?

P e t e
S u r d o v a l

--- Tracey Larvenz <tlarvenz at gmail.com> wrote:
> Didn't George throw in all the tape loops?
> 
> Tracey Larvenz
> www.melodiousthunk.net
> 
> 
> 
> On May 29, 2007, at 6:17 PM, Chris Alpiar wrote:
> 
> > Yea they were songwriters not composers that's
> exactly why they had  
> > George
> > Martin
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: fmpro-bounces+chris=alpiar.com at nxport.com
> > [mailto:fmpro-bounces+chris=alpiar.com at nxport.com]
> On Behalf Of Tracey
> > Larvenz
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 9:10 PM
> > To: fmpro at nxport.com
> > Subject: Re: [Fmpro] are loops ok to use?
> >
> > I guess the Beatles were dodgy composers too.
> >
> > Tracey Larvenz
> > www.melodiousthunk.net
> >
> >
> >
> > On May 29, 2007, at 5:52 PM, Chris Alpiar wrote:
> >
> >> If you use sampled sounds that's cool, but if you
> are using 2 4 8
> >> or more
> >> bar loops because you are too lazy to input the
> groove yourself and
> >> actually
> >> compose it, that's not worthy of calling yourself
> anything more  
> >> then a
> >> computer user, a dj, a music technologist, I
> wouldn't even have
> >> balls to
> >> call myself a music programmer if that's how I
> wrote music
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: fmpro-bounces+chris=alpiar.com at nxport.com
> >>
> [mailto:fmpro-bounces+chris=alpiar.com at nxport.com]
> On Behalf Of
> >> leshurdle
> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 7:34 PM
> >> To: onephatcat at earthlink.net; fmpro at nxport.com
> >> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] are loops ok to use?
> >>
> >> Gosh,
> >>
> >> I'm shamed and ashamed to dare to use technology
> which I paid for...
> >> even though the client wanted those sounds and
> the budget sucked.
> >>
> >> However, watermarking would have solved all the
> issues......... they
> >> didn't do it, fair game.
> >>
> >> L
> >>
> >> On May 29, 2007, at 4:03 PM,
> onephatcat at earthlink.net wrote:
> >>
> >>> I think the correct term for someone who's
> compositions are
> >>> predominantly loops should be "Compositor"
> because that is exactly
> >>> what they are doing, putting together a
> composite of sound
> >>> patterns. However, the reality is that many, if
> not most composers
> >>> are probably not capable of creating those fat
> crushed drum loop
> >>> sounds on their own, nor of actually playing nor
> easily afford to
> >>> hire someone who can play the ethnic hand
> percussion loops that are
> >>> overused these days, so lets cut some slack on
> the unpitched and
> >>> semi-pitched percussion loops, but if you use
> loops of discreet
> >>> pitched sound patterns, especially orchestra,
> shame shame shame.
> >>>
> >>> Joel
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> In my opinion you are no longer a composer if
> you do, more of a DJ
> >>>> But your ethics are up to you :) Legally I have
> no idea tho
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: fmpro-bounces+chris=alpiar.com at nxport.com
> >>>>
> [mailto:fmpro-bounces+chris=alpiar.com at nxport.com]
> On Behalf Of
> >>>> girltunes
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 3:23 PM
> >>>> To: fmpro at nxport.com
> >>>> Subject: [Fmpro] are loops ok to use?
> >>>>
> >>>> I probably missed previous discussion of
> this...but is it ok to use
> >>>> stock loops in compositions - Logic and Garage
> Band come with
> >>>> banks of
> >>>> loops and I'm not sure whether they're ok to
> use or does one share
> >>>> credit with the unknown looper who created
> them?
> >>>>
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