[Fmpro] are loops ok to use? - Genres

[Pete]

Joel, if you are working in a genre that relies
heavily on loops (Hip Hop, Electronica), you will
problably do better to use creativly use packaged
loops. Your success would probably be limited if you
didn't use outside sound sources at some point.

On the opposite hand, your results would probably be
pretty poor if you try to write an entire score, or
jazz piece with just loops.

When in Rome.

My 2 1/2 cents,
P e t e
S u r d o v a l

--- onephatcat at earthlink.net wrote:
> As I was writing my original post, I realized i was
> being an enormous stick-in-the mud, and not
> accepting the gifts that technology, and the loop
> creators (there are people who enjoy doing nothing
> but creating sound and drum loops and sell them as
> libraries) and the programmers of software like Acid
> and other loop manipulation programs have given us. 
> 
> Someone has already been paid to record the loops
> that you can find in your Apple royalty free loop
> libraries. I'm sure Apple has a signed contract with
> real blood on it somewhere to make sure of that one.
> 
> Personally, I'll probably never use a drum loop that
> I didn't create myself. I try to avoid loops and
> samples in my music altogether, except for live
> performances, I use a step sequencer or two with
> some loops I pre-programmed into them & can switch
> between as I want to. I try to avoid samples too and
> use synthesizers for everything except for drum
> sounds. 
> 
> If you have a few TB of samples that you use to make
> your music,  are you sure all the musicians who made
> those string and other non-looped samples got payed?
> Should there be a water mark on each sound so that
> someone can track how you used each sound in any
> composition so that if your music gets played on the
> radio, each person who was involved with the making
> of that sample gets compensated too? 
> 
> How far do you take your "highest ethical
> standards"? Do you take them to the point where it
> stunts the evolution of the art of music? Because
> through loop based music, the art **has** evolved.
> Young people have taken loop based music and run
> with it and the world has changed. Those of us who
> use older methods because we have developed a
> certain amount of spiritual kinship with those
> techniques probably continue doing things the way we
> are doing them. 
> 
> The young people will create their own new forms of
> music and then someone will come along with some new
> tool/method/approach and they will go "but... you
> can't do that! It's wrong! unethical! violates the
> rules of 21st century loop theory! You're putting
> musicians out of work!" etc.
> 
> Joel
> 
> 
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