[Fmpro] SUPPORT THE WGA STRIKE - COMPOSERS WATCH AND LEARN

[LesHurdle]

Hate to be the 'told you so guy'.................  many years ago a  
cable co on the east coast conducted an experiment with Ma Bell.
They transmitted shows but when it came time for the commercial they  
sent e.g. Mercedes commercials the those who had high income and Ford  
Ads to others...... I asked ASCAP how they planned to pay for two  
sets of music in the same time slot..............  still waiting for  
the answer ;-)

I also highlighted the 'imbedded' commercial on this list and asked  
why we should be paid twice since the music [if there was any in the  
scene at that time ] was doing double duty [and how might we be paid  
once green screens are being used on a global basis so the Ad can  
change country to country etc !!!!..........  I don't think there was  
a reply....... and some folks want union/unity?

I believe a stream carries a performing right...... anyone care to  
find out how the screen writers will know exactly what/how/where/when  
their product is streamed and how they will prove it, and will their  
statements have an end column indicating gross amount of sale at  
source......... if they have a process maybe we can use at 'our' PRO 
[s] & Publishers.

If we do get paid for a stream......... and the stream contains a  
mechanical right.... will the Publishers accept a PRO payment as  
proof and also pay......... or how about vice versa?

L



On Nov 14, 2007, at 5:56 PM, Michael S Patterson wrote:

> Les,
> I believe the WGA point is ‘new media’ and that would include  
> downloads.
> However, their argument is much more towards the streaming of shows
> on sites like abc.go.com – where a show is viewed with limited control
> and there is imbedded commercials. The WGA would like a percentage
> of that ad revenue.
>
> They also, as you said, would like a larger share of home video  
> sales, DVD.
> Right now they receive approx 5 cents for every $20.
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>
> On 11/14/07 4:22 PM, "LesHurdle" <leshurdle at avradionet.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Nov 14, 2007, at 4:04 PM, Marinho Nobre wrote:
>>
>>>> If I am, it is already over for us !
>>>
>>> I don't think it will be ever over for us, if I know our breed well
>>> enough...
>>
>> Well I may be 100% incorrect, but I recall a letter from ASCAP
>> pointing out that at this time 'downloads' did not incorporate a
>> performing right.
>>
>> I believe the writers are looking for a better deal re DVD's, but
>> also a right to be paid via 'the internet', this I have to presume
>> means downloads......
>> I'd be interested to know if a 'lyric' [a script etc] is considered a
>> performing right or if it just has a mechanical right content?
>>
>> How can a 'writer' be able to negotiate a right from a digital
>> process [downloads?] when a composer can't?
>>
>> I take your point re a 'union' of composers... you say you have
>> received many emails, but how many from this list?
>>
>> I applaud your effort and support it.
>>
>> L
>>
>>
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