[Fmpro] SUPPORT THE WGA STRIKE - COMPOSERS WATCH AND LEARN

[Michael S Patterson]

Les, I completely agree with you...Really we all need to reexamine our
business model. I also believe there was a short thread about ASCAP and
BMI loosing an argument regarding Œnew media¹ and streaming in Washington.

I don¹t believe that the WGA wants or cares to know how many people are
watching but that there is ad revenue and exclusive mobile agreements are
being
made...Anyone fans of LOST? There are new Œmobisodes¹ that are exclusive
to Verizon for a week and then are available to view at LOST¹s website.

I don¹t have a cell phone that plays media so I don¹t know if it is a
download
or stream...

Michael



On 11/14/07 7:13 PM, "LesHurdle" <leshurdle at avradionet.com> wrote:

> Hate to be the 'told you so guy'.................  many years ago a
> cable co on the east coast conducted an experiment with Ma Bell.
> They transmitted shows but when it came time for the commercial they
> sent e.g. Mercedes commercials the those who had high income and Ford
> Ads to others...... I asked ASCAP how they planned to pay for two
> sets of music in the same time slot..............  still waiting for
> the answer ;-)
> 
> I also highlighted the 'imbedded' commercial on this list and asked
> why we should be paid twice since the music [if there was any in the
> scene at that time ] was doing double duty [and how might we be paid
> once green screens are being used on a global basis so the Ad can
> change country to country etc !!!!..........  I don't think there was
> a reply....... and some folks want union/unity?
> 
> I believe a stream carries a performing right...... anyone care to
> find out how the screen writers will know exactly what/how/where/when
> their product is streamed and how they will prove it, and will their
> statements have an end column indicating gross amount of sale at
> source......... if they have a process maybe we can use at 'our' PRO
> [s] & Publishers.
> 
> If we do get paid for a stream......... and the stream contains a
> mechanical right.... will the Publishers accept a PRO payment as
> proof and also pay......... or how about vice versa?
> 
> L
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 14, 2007, at 5:56 PM, Michael S Patterson wrote:
> 
>> Les,
>> I believe the WGA point is Œnew media¹ and that would include
>> downloads.
>> However, their argument is much more towards the streaming of shows
>> on sites like abc.go.com ­ where a show is viewed with limited control
>> and there is imbedded commercials. The WGA would like a percentage
>> of that ad revenue.
>> 
>> They also, as you said, would like a larger share of home video
>> sales, DVD.
>> Right now they receive approx 5 cents for every $20.
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/14/07 4:22 PM, "LesHurdle" <leshurdle at avradionet.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 14, 2007, at 4:04 PM, Marinho Nobre wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> If I am, it is already over for us !
>>>> 
>>>> I don't think it will be ever over for us, if I know our breed well
>>>> enough...
>>> 
>>> Well I may be 100% incorrect, but I recall a letter from ASCAP
>>> pointing out that at this time 'downloads' did not incorporate a
>>> performing right.
>>> 
>>> I believe the writers are looking for a better deal re DVD's, but
>>> also a right to be paid via 'the internet', this I have to presume
>>> means downloads......
>>> I'd be interested to know if a 'lyric' [a script etc] is considered a
>>> performing right or if it just has a mechanical right content?
>>> 
>>> How can a 'writer' be able to negotiate a right from a digital
>>> process [downloads?] when a composer can't?
>>> 
>>> I take your point re a 'union' of composers... you say you have
>>> received many emails, but how many from this list?
>>> 
>>> I applaud your effort and support it.
>>> 
>>> L
>>> 
>>> 
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