[Fmpro] FMPRO Digest, Vol 31, Issue 14
Marinho Nobre
marinho at manommg.com
Thu Nov 22 16:43:25 GMT 2007
I Guess we all know ASCAP sucks.
Anyone out there has any experience with BMI or Sesac ?
Just wondering..
Marinho Nobre
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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!! (Les Mizzell)
> 2. Re: My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!! (John Stone)
> 3. Re: My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!! (Pete)
> 4. Re: My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!! (Mark Northam)
> 5. Re: My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!! (LesHurdle)
> 6. Re: My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!! (Les Mizzell)
> 7. Re: My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!! (Pete)
> 8. Re: My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!! (Pete)
> 9. Re: My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!! (Mark Northam)
> 10. Re: My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!! (LesHurdle)
> 11. Re: My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!! (Pete)
> 12. Re: My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!! (Mark Northam)
> 13. Re: My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!! (LesHurdle)
> 14. Re: My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!! (Geoff Koch)
> 15. Re: My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!! (LesHurdle)
> 16. Re: My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!! (Mark Northam)
> 17. Re: My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!! (LesHurdle)
> 18. Re: My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!! (Geoff Koch)
> 19. Re: My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!! (Mark Northam)
> 20. Re: My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!! (Mark Northam)
> 21. Re: My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!! (LesHurdle)
> 22. Re: Not only that.. but My ASCAP quarterly statement just
> showed up!!!! (LesHurdle)
>
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:40:35 -0500
> From: Les Mizzell <lesmizz at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: [Fmpro] My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!!
> To: fmpro at nxport.com
> Message-ID: <47445F83.1020107 at bellsouth.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Oooo!!! My ASCAP statement showed up today!
>
> With trembling hands I open the thing up. An indie film I scored about
> two years ago won some awards last year, another indie film got
> re-released - maybe there's some Christmas money in there!
>
> Let's see ...
>
> What's this? There's an "International Performance Statement" in there!
> I've got money from Israel!
>
> What it for? Let's see - "FANTASY". Doesn't say what category (Radio,
> Television, Film). What the heck is this? I've never done anything
> called "Fantasy". I've no idea what this is!!
>
> Oh well - guess I got somebody else's money. Sucks for them!!!
>
> How much? OMG!!!! A whopping $3.32! Guess it didn't have any lyrics, huh?
>
> Oh well, I can buy a drink at the Zippy Mart. Oh wait - ASCAP kept it
> all to apply against my dues!
>
> I get $0.00.
>
> Gotta love the letter that came with the statement:
>
> "I am pleased to report that this distribution is the largest November
> distribution in ASCAP history. It surpasses last year's November
> distribution by 6.8% ...blah, blah, blah...."
>
> Well, to all you folks that got all that money, enjoy your Christmas
> bonus!!!! I'll be thinking about you while I'm trying to figure out how
> to get paid for stuff I've got on the web, stuff on DVD, stuff being
> downloaded or streamed ...
>
>
> Have a nice Thanksgiving!!!
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:14:51 -0700
> From: John Stone <buddhastone at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!!
> To: <fmpro at nxport.com>
> Message-ID: <BAY112-W217EE95F2A3440E2C3120DB2780 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Les M,
>
> Did your project have any license agreements with www.soundexchange.com?
(...sorry for you ASCAP tracking issues..) would they track any of the
digital rights?
>
> Good luck in claiming your royalties. John
>
>
>
> >From: lesmizz at bellsouth.net> > > What's this? There's an "International
Performance Statement" in there! > How much? OMG!!!! A whopping $3.32!
Guess it didn't have any lyrics, huh?...> ...to get paid for stuff I've got
on the web, stuff on DVD, stuff being > downloaded or streamed ...> >
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> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:33:50 -0800 (PST)
> From: Pete <musical411 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!!
> To: fmpro at nxport.com
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> You only have two things registered with ASCAP. Is
> that their fault? Write more and you'll earn more.
>
> P e t e
> S u r d o v a l
>
> --- Les Mizzell <lesmizz at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > Oooo!!! My ASCAP statement showed up today!
> >
> > With trembling hands I open the thing up. An indie
> > film I scored about
> > two years ago won some awards last year, another
> > indie film got
> > re-released - maybe there's some Christmas money in
> > there!
> >
> > Let's see ...
> >
> > What's this? There's an "International Performance
> > Statement" in there!
> > I've got money from Israel!
> >
> > What it for? Let's see - "FANTASY". Doesn't say what
> > category (Radio,
> > Television, Film). What the heck is this? I've never
> > done anything
> > called "Fantasy". I've no idea what this is!!
> >
> > Oh well - guess I got somebody else's money. Sucks
> > for them!!!
> >
> > How much? OMG!!!! A whopping $3.32! Guess it didn't
> > have any lyrics, huh?
> >
> > Oh well, I can buy a drink at the Zippy Mart. Oh
> > wait - ASCAP kept it
> > all to apply against my dues!
> >
> > I get $0.00.
> >
> > Gotta love the letter that came with the statement:
> >
> > "I am pleased to report that this distribution is
> > the largest November
> > distribution in ASCAP history. It surpasses last
> > year's November
> > distribution by 6.8% ...blah, blah, blah...."
> >
> > Well, to all you folks that got all that money,
> > enjoy your Christmas
> > bonus!!!! I'll be thinking about you while I'm
> > trying to figure out how
> > to get paid for stuff I've got on the web, stuff on
> > DVD, stuff being
> > downloaded or streamed ...
> >
> >
> > Have a nice Thanksgiving!!!
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:54:36 -0800
> From: Mark Northam <mnortham at gmdgroup.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!!
> To: <fmpro at nxport.com>
> Message-ID: <C369B0DC.41565%mnortham at gmdgroup.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> On 11/21/07 9:33 AM, "Pete" <musical411 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > You only have two things registered with ASCAP. Is
> > that their fault? Write more and you'll earn more.
> >
> > P e t e
> > S u r d o v a l
>
> That's kind of harsh, Pete!
>
> If his work was performed and ASCAP refused to track and pay for it, it
> doesn't matter whether the writer has composed 1 work or 100 works. Lousy
> tracking is lousy tracking... Just ask any ASCAP member who writes CPA
> music. The refusal to implement digital watermarking at ASCAP speaks
volumes
> as to their attitude towards tracking more music. Not that it would have
> helped Les, but it might have. Never forget John Beal's chilling report -
> months of broadcasts of the trailer for "The Matrix" that he scored on TV
> and not a nickel from ASCAP. That tells the story right there.
>
> Bottom line: ASCAP tracks what it wants to track, and refuses to track
> (well) music it doesn't want to track or has arbitrarily devalued in order
> to keep other types of music paying high royalties. If more CPA music was
> tracked and paid, even at the lousy rate of 3 cents on the dollar for a
> minute of music compared to minute of song within a program, it would
likely
> reduce the rich songwriters' checks unacceptably, so year after year ASCAP
> finds excuses why it "can't track" CPA music and finds ways to refuse to
> implement the technology that would provide easy tracking of this music.
The
> end result? Money that can and should be paid to CPA composers gets paid
to
> other members when CPA performances are not tracked and paid.
>
> Whether someone is rich or not shouldn't affect whether they should be
paid
> properly for their royalties, and whether someone has written many or few
> works shouldn't affect whether their works should be tracked and paid for
> those works they do write that are broadcast.
>
> Happy Thanksgiving!
>
> Mark Northam
>
>
>
> On 11/21/07 9:33 AM, "Pete" <musical411 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > You only have two things registered with ASCAP. Is
> > that their fault? Write more and you'll earn more.
> >
> > P e t e
> > S u r d o v a l
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:25:26 -0800
> From: LesHurdle <leshurdle at avradionet.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!!
> To: fmpro at nxport.com
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> Pete,
>
> What utter crap.
> You should know better..... love ya !
>
> Anyway. from a screen writer friend
>
>
> Purple Violets is hitting iTunes tonight, and is being written in
> history as the very first feature length film to be distributed
> exclusively through iTunes. That's right. No DVDs. No theatrical
> premiere. Just iTunes.
>
>
> L
>
> On Nov 21, 2007, at 9:33 AM, Pete wrote:
>
> > You only have two things registered with ASCAP. Is
> > that their fault? Write more and you'll earn more.
> >
> > P e t e
> > S u r d o v a l
> >
> > --- Les Mizzell <lesmizz at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >> Oooo!!! My ASCAP statement showed up today!
> >>
> >> With trembling hands I open the thing up. An indie
> >> film I scored about
> >> two years ago won some awards last year, another
> >> indie film got
> >> re-released - maybe there's some Christmas money in
> >> there!
> >>
> >> Let's see ...
> >>
> >> What's this? There's an "International Performance
> >> Statement" in there!
> >> I've got money from Israel!
> >>
> >> What it for? Let's see - "FANTASY". Doesn't say what
> >> category (Radio,
> >> Television, Film). What the heck is this? I've never
> >> done anything
> >> called "Fantasy". I've no idea what this is!!
> >>
> >> Oh well - guess I got somebody else's money. Sucks
> >> for them!!!
> >>
> >> How much? OMG!!!! A whopping $3.32! Guess it didn't
> >> have any lyrics, huh?
> >>
> >> Oh well, I can buy a drink at the Zippy Mart. Oh
> >> wait - ASCAP kept it
> >> all to apply against my dues!
> >>
> >> I get $0.00.
> >>
> >> Gotta love the letter that came with the statement:
> >>
> >> "I am pleased to report that this distribution is
> >> the largest November
> >> distribution in ASCAP history. It surpasses last
> >> year's November
> >> distribution by 6.8% ...blah, blah, blah...."
> >>
> >> Well, to all you folks that got all that money,
> >> enjoy your Christmas
> >> bonus!!!! I'll be thinking about you while I'm
> >> trying to figure out how
> >> to get paid for stuff I've got on the web, stuff on
> >> DVD, stuff being
> >> downloaded or streamed ...
> >>
> >>
> >> Have a nice Thanksgiving!!!
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:32:10 -0500
> From: Les Mizzell <lesmizz at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!!
> To: fmpro at nxport.com
> Message-ID: <474479AA.5090703 at bellsouth.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Pete wrote:
> > You only have two things registered with ASCAP. Is
> > that their fault? Write more and you'll earn more.
>
>
> No - that's not the issue. There's something on my statement that I've
> *never* heard of! I've took $3.32 out of somebody else's pocket I guess...
>
> I'm well aware of my lack of registered stuff. Most of the work I've
> done has been for the ETV networks - work for hire. Argh!
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:40:22 -0800 (PST)
> From: Pete <musical411 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!!
> To: fmpro at nxport.com
> Message-ID: <145113.79011.qm at web53702.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Staying on the one topic... He wrote music for two
> indie films. He got a check for international
> royalties. Did those films air anywhere
> internationally? (He never claimed they did.) If not,
> they wouldn't be tracked.
>
> But, he did get money for something that he didn't
> write. His reaction... "Oh well... sucks for them."
>
> Bottom line, the more you write, the more you're
> likely to earn. That's not being elitist or harsh.
>
> P e t e
> S u r d o v a l
>
>
> --- Mark Northam <mnortham at gmdgroup.com> wrote:
> > On 11/21/07 9:33 AM, "Pete" <musical411 at yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > You only have two things registered with ASCAP. Is
> > > that their fault? Write more and you'll earn more.
> > >
> > > P e t e
> > > S u r d o v a l
> >
> > That's kind of harsh, Pete!
> >
> > If his work was performed and ASCAP refused to track
> > and pay for it, it
> > doesn't matter whether the writer has composed 1
> > work or 100 works. Lousy
> > tracking is lousy tracking... Just ask any ASCAP
> > member who writes CPA
> > music. The refusal to implement digital watermarking
> > at ASCAP speaks volumes
> > as to their attitude towards tracking more music.
> > Not that it would have
> > helped Les, but it might have. Never forget John
> > Beal's chilling report -
> > months of broadcasts of the trailer for "The Matrix"
> > that he scored on TV
> > and not a nickel from ASCAP. That tells the story
> > right there.
> >
> > Bottom line: ASCAP tracks what it wants to track,
> > and refuses to track
> > (well) music it doesn't want to track or has
> > arbitrarily devalued in order
> > to keep other types of music paying high royalties.
> > If more CPA music was
> > tracked and paid, even at the lousy rate of 3 cents
> > on the dollar for a
> > minute of music compared to minute of song within a
> > program, it would likely
> > reduce the rich songwriters' checks unacceptably, so
> > year after year ASCAP
> > finds excuses why it "can't track" CPA music and
> > finds ways to refuse to
> > implement the technology that would provide easy
> > tracking of this music. The
> > end result? Money that can and should be paid to CPA
> > composers gets paid to
> > other members when CPA performances are not tracked
> > and paid.
> >
> > Whether someone is rich or not shouldn't affect
> > whether they should be paid
> > properly for their royalties, and whether someone
> > has written many or few
> > works shouldn't affect whether their works should be
> > tracked and paid for
> > those works they do write that are broadcast.
> >
> > Happy Thanksgiving!
> >
> > Mark Northam
> >
> >
> >
> > On 11/21/07 9:33 AM, "Pete" <musical411 at yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > You only have two things registered with ASCAP. Is
> > > that their fault? Write more and you'll earn more.
> > >
> > > P e t e
> > > S u r d o v a l
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:56:59 -0800 (PST)
> From: Pete <musical411 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!!
> To: fmpro at nxport.com
> Message-ID: <919671.77517.qm at web53707.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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>
> --- LesHurdle wrote:
> utter crap
>
> I think you misspelled "good point". :-)
>
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:58:40 -0800
> From: Mark Northam <mnortham at gmdgroup.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!!
> To: <fmpro at nxport.com>
> Message-ID: <C369BFE0.4157C%mnortham at gmdgroup.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Yes, but you should still get the writer's side of ASCAP performance
> royalties even for work-for-hire situations. WFH means that the employer
> keeps the publishing side of performance royalties, but not the writers...
>
> Mark Northam
>
>
> On 11/21/07 10:32 AM, "Les Mizzell" <lesmizz at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > I'm well aware of my lack of registered stuff. Most of the work I've
> > done has been for the ETV networks - work for hire. Argh!
>
> ---------------------------------
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> Global Media Development Group
>
> http://www.FIlmMusicMag.com - The Professional Voice of Music For Film &
TV
>
> 1-800-774-3700 ext. 702 / 310-645-9000 ext. 702
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>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:53:47 -0800
> From: LesHurdle <leshurdle at avradionet.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!!
> To: fmpro at nxport.com
> Message-ID: <D5F6EF41-6F2E-4CB3-9FB5-3C58DB3F122F at avradionet.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>
> Bad pointers ;-)
>
> IF, a piece of music is aired, and one has written 'a' piece of
> music, one should be paid.
>
> If one SONG from a CD is a hit and the only one aired from the
> CD....... you bet ASCAP will find it and pay !!!!!
>
> SONG SONG SONG SONG SONG SONG SONG SONG
>
> Let's get real....... hey it's only been 80+ years, can't expect too
> much ;-)
>
> Boo hiss
>
> L
>
> On Nov 21, 2007, at 10:56 AM, Pete wrote:
>
> > --- LesHurdle wrote:
> > utter crap
> >
> > I think you misspelled "good point". :-)
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:19:59 -0800 (PST)
> From: Pete <musical411 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!!
> To: fmpro at nxport.com
> Message-ID: <105719.10932.qm at web53709.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> I didn't say anything about song or score. The only
> point was, you can't expect a big international check
> from ASCAP if you only registered two things, and they
> didn't air internationally.
>
>
> --- LesHurdle <leshurdle at avradionet.com> wrote:
> > Bad pointers ;-)
> >
> > IF, a piece of music is aired, and one has written
> > 'a' piece of
> > music, one should be paid.
> >
> > If one SONG from a CD is a hit and the only one
> > aired from the
> > CD....... you bet ASCAP will find it and pay !!!!!
> >
> > SONG SONG SONG SONG SONG SONG SONG SONG
> >
> > Let's get real....... hey it's only been 80+ years,
> > can't expect too
> > much ;-)
> >
> > Boo hiss
> >
> > L
> >
> > On Nov 21, 2007, at 10:56 AM, Pete wrote:
> >
> > > --- LesHurdle wrote:
> > > utter crap
> > >
> > > I think you misspelled "good point". :-)
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:36:35 -0800
> From: Mark Northam <mnortham at gmdgroup.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!!
> To: <fmpro at nxport.com>
> Message-ID: <C369D6D3.41592%mnortham at gmdgroup.com>
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>
> OK, then, here's a question: If you have one work, and that one work is
> aired (domestically, let's say), should you expect to be paid?
>
> MN
>
>
> On 11/21/07 12:19 PM, "Pete" <musical411 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I didn't say anything about song or score. The only
> > point was, you can't expect a big international check
> > from ASCAP if you only registered two things, and they
> > didn't air internationally.
>
> ---------------------------------
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>
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>
>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:55:32 -0800
> From: LesHurdle <leshurdle at avradionet.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!!
> To: fmpro at nxport.com
> Message-ID: <CA45BD67-66FA-4343-BC5A-06E875A04BAE at avradionet.com>
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> Correct, however, the sentiment and the facts remains SONG is what
> ASCAP is all about... and of-course those on the Board who wrOte such
> things.
>
> Les
>
> On Nov 21, 2007, at 12:19 PM, Pete wrote:
>
> > I didn't say anything about song or score. The only
> > point was, you can't expect a big international check
> > from ASCAP if you only registered two things, and they
> > didn't air internationally.
> >
> >
> > --- LesHurdle <leshurdle at avradionet.com> wrote:
> >> Bad pointers ;-)
> >>
> >> IF, a piece of music is aired, and one has written
> >> 'a' piece of
> >> music, one should be paid.
> >>
> >> If one SONG from a CD is a hit and the only one
> >> aired from the
> >> CD....... you bet ASCAP will find it and pay !!!!!
> >>
> >> SONG SONG SONG SONG SONG SONG SONG SONG
> >>
> >> Let's get real....... hey it's only been 80+ years,
> >> can't expect too
> >> much ;-)
> >>
> >> Boo hiss
> >>
> >> L
> >>
> >> On Nov 21, 2007, at 10:56 AM, Pete wrote:
> >>
> >>> --- LesHurdle wrote:
> >>> utter crap
> >>>
> >>> I think you misspelled "good point". :-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:06:40 -0600
> From: Geoff Koch <gk at kochproductions.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!!
> To: <fmpro at nxport.com>
> Message-ID: <C369FA00.436A%gk at kochproductions.com>
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>
> Unless, of course, one of those publishers (or his wife) magically
appeared
> as "composer" on the cue sheet.
>
> On 11/21/07 12:58 PM, "Mark Northam" <mnortham at gmdgroup.com> wrote:
>
> > Yes, but you should still get the writer's side of ASCAP performance
> > royalties even for work-for-hire situations. WFH means that the employer
> > keeps the publishing side of performance royalties, but not the
writers...
> >
> > Mark Northam
> >
> >
> > On 11/21/07 10:32 AM, "Les Mizzell" <lesmizz at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm well aware of my lack of registered stuff. Most of the work I've
> >> done has been for the ETV networks - work for hire. Argh!
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Mark Northam, CEO
> > Global Media Development Group
> >
> > http://www.FIlmMusicMag.com - The Professional Voice of Music For Film &
TV
> >
> > 1-800-774-3700 ext. 702 / 310-645-9000 ext. 702
> > http://www.gmdgroup.com
> > Yahoo/Skype: marknortham / AIM: mnortham
> >
> >
> >
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:13:02 -0800
> From: LesHurdle <leshurdle at avradionet.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!!
> To: fmpro at nxport.com
> Message-ID: <2C51D350-A2B5-495F-975B-9ABB3186CC25 at avradionet.com>
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>
> Aha......... how would the composer ever know??
>
> Now move all of this into download-land........... how will any of us
> know who added what and/or whose name to the 'product' ;-)
>
> L
>
> On Nov 21, 2007, at 1:06 PM, Geoff Koch wrote:
>
> > Unless, of course, one of those publishers (or his wife) magically
> > appeared
> > as "composer" on the cue sheet.
> >
> > On 11/21/07 12:58 PM, "Mark Northam" <mnortham at gmdgroup.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, but you should still get the writer's side of ASCAP performance
> >> royalties even for work-for-hire situations. WFH means that the
> >> employer
> >> keeps the publishing side of performance royalties, but not the
> >> writers...
> >>
> >> Mark Northam
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11/21/07 10:32 AM, "Les Mizzell" <lesmizz at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm well aware of my lack of registered stuff. Most of the work I've
> >>> done has been for the ETV networks - work for hire. Argh!
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------
> >> Mark Northam, CEO
> >> Global Media Development Group
> >>
> >> http://www.FIlmMusicMag.com - The Professional Voice of Music For
> >> Film & TV
> >>
> >> 1-800-774-3700 ext. 702 / 310-645-9000 ext. 702
> >> http://www.gmdgroup.com
> >> Yahoo/Skype: marknortham / AIM: mnortham
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:48:59 -0800
> From: Mark Northam <mnortham at gmdgroup.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!!
> To: <fmpro at nxport.com>
> Message-ID: <C369E7CB.415AA%mnortham at gmdgroup.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> That would be a criminal offense, just like forging a name on a check,
> unless done with the agreement of the "real" composer.
>
> As to the PRO's policies of allowing employers to demand writers credit as
a
> condition of employment, it's a horrific practice and the PRO's choice to
do
> nothing about it (or in the case of ASCAP, the board voted down a proposal
a
> few years ago to have ASCAP take a stand against the practice, at least in
> principal) speaks volumes as to the lack of ethics or morals existing on
the
> controlling boards of those organizations. To allow that kind of extortion
> is outrageous, yet these people keep on getting elected over and over
again
> because the board meetings where they commit their deeds are kept very,
very
> secret.
>
> As I have said before, I have no idea how these people sleep at night,
other
> than perhaps repeating "At least we're not owned by the broadcasters..."
> over and over and over and...
>
> To have a phony writer listed on a cue sheet undermines the entire
integrity
> of the performing rights royalty system. It's amazing that the PROs
haven't
> figured this out, or perhaps they have...
>
> Best,
>
> MN
>
>
> On 11/21/07 1:06 PM, "Geoff Koch" <gk at kochproductions.com> wrote:
>
> > Unless, of course, one of those publishers (or his wife) magically
appeared
> > as "composer" on the cue sheet.
> >
> > On 11/21/07 12:58 PM, "Mark Northam" <mnortham at gmdgroup.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, but you should still get the writer's side of ASCAP performance
> >> royalties even for work-for-hire situations. WFH means that the
employer
> >> keeps the publishing side of performance royalties, but not the
writers...
> >>
> >> Mark Northam
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11/21/07 10:32 AM, "Les Mizzell" <lesmizz at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm well aware of my lack of registered stuff. Most of the work I've
> >>> done has been for the ETV networks - work for hire. Argh!
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------
> >> Mark Northam, CEO
> >> Global Media Development Group
> >>
> >> http://www.FIlmMusicMag.com - The Professional Voice of Music For Film
& TV
> >>
> >> 1-800-774-3700 ext. 702 / 310-645-9000 ext. 702
> >> http://www.gmdgroup.com
> >> Yahoo/Skype: marknortham / AIM: mnortham
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> ---------------------------------
> Mark Northam, CEO
> Global Media Development Group
>
> http://www.Muse411.com - The Music Industry Online Directory
>
> 1-800-774-3700 ext. 702 / 310-645-9000 ext. 702
> http://www.gmdgroup.com
> Yahoo/Skype: marknortham / AIM: mnortham
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:55:07 -0800
> From: LesHurdle <leshurdle at avradionet.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!!
> To: fmpro at nxport.com
> Message-ID: <FCF1F408-27E6-48E2-BEFA-584A03FDAC10 at avradionet.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>
> Did the 'fake' election of Jimmie Jams successor stand?
>
> L
>
> On Nov 21, 2007, at 1:48 PM, Mark Northam wrote:
>
> > To allow that kind of extortion
> > is outrageous, yet these people keep on getting elected over and
> > over again
> > because the board meetings where they commit their deeds are kept
> > very, very
> > secret.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:11:47 -0600
> From: Geoff Koch <gk at kochproductions.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!!
> To: <fmpro at nxport.com>
> Message-ID: <C36A0943.4372%gk at kochproductions.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Mark -- I suppose it depends on how "agreement" is construed.
>
> Do you think that offense would be criminal in nature? Any precedent for
> it? If so, I say let's get the indictments flowing!!! A few of those
might
> get the ASCAP board to sit up straight, too.
>
>
> On 11/21/07 3:48 PM, "Mark Northam" <mnortham at gmdgroup.com> wrote:
>
> > That would be a criminal offense, just like forging a name on a check,
> > unless done with the agreement of the "real" composer.
> >
> > As to the PRO's policies of allowing employers to demand writers credit
as a
> > condition of employment, it's a horrific practice and the PRO's choice
to do
> > nothing about it (or in the case of ASCAP, the board voted down a
proposal a
> > few years ago to have ASCAP take a stand against the practice, at least
in
> > principal) speaks volumes as to the lack of ethics or morals existing on
the
> > controlling boards of those organizations. To allow that kind of
extortion
> > is outrageous, yet these people keep on getting elected over and over
again
> > because the board meetings where they commit their deeds are kept very,
very
> > secret.
> >
> > As I have said before, I have no idea how these people sleep at night,
other
> > than perhaps repeating "At least we're not owned by the broadcasters..."
> > over and over and over and...
> >
> > To have a phony writer listed on a cue sheet undermines the entire
integrity
> > of the performing rights royalty system. It's amazing that the PROs
haven't
> > figured this out, or perhaps they have...
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > MN
> >
> >
> > On 11/21/07 1:06 PM, "Geoff Koch" <gk at kochproductions.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Unless, of course, one of those publishers (or his wife) magically
appeared
> >> as "composer" on the cue sheet.
> >>
> >> On 11/21/07 12:58 PM, "Mark Northam" <mnortham at gmdgroup.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yes, but you should still get the writer's side of ASCAP performance
> >>> royalties even for work-for-hire situations. WFH means that the
employer
> >>> keeps the publishing side of performance royalties, but not the
writers...
> >>>
> >>> Mark Northam
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 11/21/07 10:32 AM, "Les Mizzell" <lesmizz at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I'm well aware of my lack of registered stuff. Most of the work I've
> >>>> done has been for the ETV networks - work for hire. Argh!
> >>>
> >>> ---------------------------------
> >>> Mark Northam, CEO
> >>> Global Media Development Group
> >>>
> >>> http://www.FIlmMusicMag.com - The Professional Voice of Music For Film
& TV
> >>>
> >>> 1-800-774-3700 ext. 702 / 310-645-9000 ext. 702
> >>> http://www.gmdgroup.com
> >>> Yahoo/Skype: marknortham / AIM: mnortham
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> > ---------------------------------
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> > Global Media Development Group
> >
> > http://www.Muse411.com - The Music Industry Online Directory
> >
> > 1-800-774-3700 ext. 702 / 310-645-9000 ext. 702
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> >
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:23:39 -0800
> From: Mark Northam <mnortham at gmdgroup.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!!
> To: <fmpro at nxport.com>
> Message-ID: <C369EFEB.415BA%mnortham at gmdgroup.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> On 11/21/07 1:55 PM, "LesHurdle" <leshurdle at avradionet.com> wrote:
>
> > Did the 'fake' election of Jimmie Jams successor stand?
> >
> > L
> >
>
> As usual, the board member waited until after the election to resign, thus
> denying the membership the right to elect a successor. This way, the ASCAP
> Board handpicked who they wanted, which in this case was someone not even
on
> the ballot in the last election held only 10 months ago. All done in
secret,
> of course.
>
> It's an outrageously non-democratic policy that smells of utter disregard
> for the membership and their wishes. Why appoint a runner-up when you can
> appoint a "friend of ASCAP" instead? Why even have elections, when they've
> blown out the independent candidates and "choose" their own opponents via
> the nominating committee. Then, when there's an opening months after the
> election, they completely disregard any and all runner-ups and choose a
> "friend". And to cap it all off, when everyone who runs gets re-elected
time
> after time, they have the gall to brag about it, after having eliminated
all
> the independent candidates and "chosen" weak ones as opponents that never
> get elected. Sadly, the ASCAP elections have been manipulated by the Board
> into more of a coronation of the incumbents.
>
> Sounds more like a third-world dictatorship than a PRO that brags about
its
> democratic principals... This kind of "country club" democracy where
> elections are manipulated to favor "friends" is yet another kick in the
> teeth to democracy at ASCAP. We can only hope that the DOJ at some point
> steps in after seeing the democratic process at ASCAP trampled time and
time
> again by its Board who consistently seem to desire power and secrecy far
> more than accountability, transparency and democracy in the elections as
> well as in other matters.
>
> MN
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Mark Northam, CEO
> Global Media Development Group
>
> http://www.FilmMusic.net - Film & TV Music Job Listings
>
> 1-800-774-3700 ext. 702 / 310-645-9000 ext. 702
> http://www.gmdgroup.com
> Yahoo/Skype: marknortham / AIM: mnortham
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 20
> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:27:59 -0800
> From: Mark Northam <mnortham at gmdgroup.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!!
> To: <fmpro at nxport.com>
> Message-ID: <C369F0EF.415BE%mnortham at gmdgroup.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> For any of this to happen, composers have to be willing to take a stand
> against the abuse they receive at the hands of their employers and the
PROs
> who, by knowingly allowing executives to claim authorship of music they
> didn't write, are as guilty as the employers of this despicable practice.
>
> Now it's a matter of finding composers (even one) who are willing to
> publicly take on both the well-funded production companies who do this AND
> their pals at the PROs who write the checks. [ ...crickets... ]
>
> If the PROs didn't allow this sort of thing to happen, it would be a
> different story. But they do, and that makes it an almost impossible task
> for any individual composers who want to fight this.
>
> Best,
>
> MN
>
>
> On 11/21/07 2:11 PM, "Geoff Koch" <gk at kochproductions.com> wrote:
>
> > Mark -- I suppose it depends on how "agreement" is construed.
> >
> > Do you think that offense would be criminal in nature? Any precedent
for
> > it? If so, I say let's get the indictments flowing!!! A few of those
might
> > get the ASCAP board to sit up straight, too.
> >
> >
> > On 11/21/07 3:48 PM, "Mark Northam" <mnortham at gmdgroup.com> wrote:
> >
> >> That would be a criminal offense, just like forging a name on a check,
> >> unless done with the agreement of the "real" composer.
> >>
> >> As to the PRO's policies of allowing employers to demand writers credit
as a
> >> condition of employment, it's a horrific practice and the PRO's choice
to do
> >> nothing about it (or in the case of ASCAP, the board voted down a
proposal a
> >> few years ago to have ASCAP take a stand against the practice, at least
in
> >> principal) speaks volumes as to the lack of ethics or morals existing
on the
> >> controlling boards of those organizations. To allow that kind of
extortion
> >> is outrageous, yet these people keep on getting elected over and over
again
> >> because the board meetings where they commit their deeds are kept very,
very
> >> secret.
> >>
> >> As I have said before, I have no idea how these people sleep at night,
other
> >> than perhaps repeating "At least we're not owned by the
broadcasters..."
> >> over and over and over and...
> >>
> >> To have a phony writer listed on a cue sheet undermines the entire
integrity
> >> of the performing rights royalty system. It's amazing that the PROs
haven't
> >> figured this out, or perhaps they have...
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> MN
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11/21/07 1:06 PM, "Geoff Koch" <gk at kochproductions.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Unless, of course, one of those publishers (or his wife) magically
appeared
> >>> as "composer" on the cue sheet.
> >>>
> >>> On 11/21/07 12:58 PM, "Mark Northam" <mnortham at gmdgroup.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Yes, but you should still get the writer's side of ASCAP performance
> >>>> royalties even for work-for-hire situations. WFH means that the
employer
> >>>> keeps the publishing side of performance royalties, but not the
writers...
> >>>>
> >>>> Mark Northam
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 11/21/07 10:32 AM, "Les Mizzell" <lesmizz at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I'm well aware of my lack of registered stuff. Most of the work I've
> >>>>> done has been for the ETV networks - work for hire. Argh!
> >>>>
> >>>> ---------------------------------
> >>>> Mark Northam, CEO
> >>>> Global Media Development Group
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.FIlmMusicMag.com - The Professional Voice of Music For
Film & TV
> >>>>
> >>>> 1-800-774-3700 ext. 702 / 310-645-9000 ext. 702
> >>>> http://www.gmdgroup.com
> >>>> Yahoo/Skype: marknortham / AIM: mnortham
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >> ---------------------------------
> >> Mark Northam, CEO
> >> Global Media Development Group
> >>
> >> http://www.Muse411.com - The Music Industry Online Directory
> >>
> >> 1-800-774-3700 ext. 702 / 310-645-9000 ext. 702
> >> http://www.gmdgroup.com
> >> Yahoo/Skype: marknortham / AIM: mnortham
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> ---------------------------------
> Mark Northam, CEO
> Global Media Development Group
>
> http://www.FIlmMusicMag.com - The Professional Voice of Music For Film &
TV
>
> 1-800-774-3700 ext. 702 / 310-645-9000 ext. 702
> http://www.gmdgroup.com
> Yahoo/Skype: marknortham / AIM: mnortham
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:37:05 -0800
> From: LesHurdle <leshurdle at avradionet.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] My ASCAP quarterly statement just showed up!!!!
> To: fmpro at nxport.com
> Message-ID: <70F66F7C-4843-4A2C-92A1-2EA05C3A5D48 at avradionet.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>
> and then you woke up
>
> I'd like to hear our instrumental/film music reps on the board, Wood,
> Bellis, Broughton actually spell out who it is who insists on 'song'
> being 'it'...... it sure isn't those who pay us... the broadcasters
>
> L
>
>
> L
>
> On Nov 21, 2007, at 2:23 PM, Mark Northam wrote:
>
> > We can only hope that the DOJ at some point
> > steps in after seeing the democratic process at ASCAP trampled time
> > and time
> > again by its Board who consistently seem to desire power and
> > secrecy far
> > more than accountability, transparency and democracy in the
> > elections as
> > well as in other matters.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 22
> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:38:58 -0800
> From: LesHurdle <leshurdle at avradionet.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] Not only that.. but My ASCAP quarterly statement
> just showed up!!!!
> To: fmpro at nxport.com
> Message-ID: <F8AB5F52-928C-4097-A5B6-A846A31C2641 at avradionet.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>
> When folks fly into LA to meet with ASCAP vp personnel to make sure
> their 'account' is ok...... ha...... all too creepy.
>
> L
>
> On Nov 21, 2007, at 2:27 PM, Mark Northam wrote:
>
> > For any of this to happen, composers have to be willing to take a
> > stand
> > against the abuse they receive at the hands of their employers and
> > the PROs
>
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