[Fmpro] Mr Alpair

[Chris Alpiar]

Post it man, I only sent to you to avoid over-scrutiny of you on the list.
But please post it man I have no problems. You are not doing a good job of
helping and if you try to tear down what I am working on I will have no
choice but to continue to point out how you aren't publicly


-----Original Message-----
From: fmpro-bounces+chris=alpiar.com at nxport.com
[mailto:fmpro-bounces+chris=alpiar.com at nxport.com] On Behalf Of leshurdle
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 12:52 PM
To: fmpro at nxport.com
Subject: Re: [Fmpro] Mr Alpair

Pity you didn't post the private email you sent to me..... would you  
care to post my reply ??

However.. see below.........

L

On Sep 16, 2007, at 9:24 AM, Chris Alpiar wrote:

> Well as far as THIS thread is concerned he has no desire for change  
> and has
> contributed zero to this particular thought.

When you come up with an original thought and a plan, you bet I'll be  
desirous to see it through.

> The only thing he has done is
> to derail the positive suggestions we were FINALLY getting to after  
> a week
> of debate.

Just telling like it really is... without dreaming.......

> I have deep respect for Les and I don't doubt he has tried to
> help in his own way a number of times over the years. But as far as  
> this
> thread, this idea, well read unbiased and you should be able to see  
> there is
> nothing other then his desire to tear apart any movement forward we  
> were
> making here.

B/S... just trying to stop you from wasting your time on true tried  
and tested failures.

> I was asking people to dream with me and say what they wanted
> from an ideal situation, as one way to do the very beginnings of  
> organizing
> thoughts and creating goals collectively. And his only response was
> everything in the world was tried already and there is no use and  
> why don't
> I personally buy a ticket to NY and confront these people in the  
> same manner
> as his failed attempts.

Nope, I said go to NY and talk to the top people, how you do it and  
what you would do and say is up to you.
However, you are not prepared to step up and take control..........  
even Mr Merritt found it difficult.

Why not ask 50 people on this list to go with you............ how  
many are willing....... please post.


> Sorry Vic but that is not the way, we already know
> it doesn't work, thanks to Les.

Hold on.. that's an insult buddy.

It didn't work because composers were to darn lazy or scared to get  
involved.
Thank your fellows not me.

> I know he is your buddy for a long time, and
> I think he is a great guy whose anger helps to bring to light lots of
> situations.

In my email to you I explain how I am  not angry but amused watching  
you all go down the same path we did............ come up with  
something new.

> This thread however he is out of line and has destroyed the
> momentum that I worked so hard to get started on.

Oh crap................  if I have destroyed it, then believe me, you  
have no chance when you get up against the big money, where is the  
backbone?

> Let's drop the ego crap
> here people and lets try and really dig into some forward thinking  
> and make
> some real change!

Go ahead then Chris, stop posting, go to the top, go to NY and demand  
change.

Stick it out there.

L

>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fmpro-bounces+chris=alpiar.com at nxport.com
> [mailto:fmpro-bounces+chris=alpiar.com at nxport.com] On Behalf Of
> flight007 at aol.com
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 11:58 AM
> To: fmpro at nxport.com
> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] FMPRO Digest, Vol 29, Issue 15
>
> Dear Chris,
>
> Your posting, copied below, is one of the most ill-informed,  
> insulting and
> ignorant I have had the displeasure to read.? You have no idea to what
> lengths Les had gone to in an unselfish effort to benefit the lot of
> composers.? He has given time, money and effort to what he believes  
> is a
> just cause.? I don't know?what your reference to erasers and  
> symphonies is
> trying to imply but to say Les is throwing a cog in a wheel is  
> inexcusable.?
> If you do a quarter?of what Les has done you may just be able to  
> hold your
> head up high.
>
> Vic F
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 14:25:23 -0400
> From: "Chris Alpiar" <chris at alpiar.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] California Dreamin
> To: <fmpro at nxport.com>
> Message-ID: <000401c7f7c5$c7d21380$6501a8c0 at workhorse>
> Content-Type: text/plain;?? charset="us-ascii"
>
> I think we are all trying to lead the charge a little bit. Every  
> person that
> is posting positive ideas. We don't have a piece of paper or an  
> eraser but
> you want a symphony in 5 minutes? No you don't even want the  
> symphony, you
> just want to throw a cog in the wheel so that any possible chance for
> someone else to have success will be destroyed and you can say SEE  
> I TOLD YA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fmpro-bounces+chris=alpiar.com at nxport.com
> [mailto:fmpro-bounces+chris=alpiar.com at nxport.com] On Behalf Of  
> leshurdle
> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 2:07 PM
> To: fmpro at nxport.com
> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] California Dreamin
>
> Then Tracey...... lead the charge..........? how will you start?
>
>
> L
>
>
>
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