[Fmpro] Poop......... instead of 'turd' - OFFLIST
Rick Blanc
pazuni at sbcglobal.net
Mon Sep 17 06:27:18 GMT 2007
And remember that the road to hell is paved
with good intentions. There is perhaps nothing
more painful or more important than
disillusionment.
RB
----- Original Message -----
From: Pete
To: pazuni at sbcglobal.net
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Fmpro] Poop......... instead of 'turd' - OFFLIST
Hey Chris,
As someone who has done battle on the FMPRO list, and
particularly Les, I understand how mentally draining
it can be.
Like you, I've had only the most positive intentions.
Les, unfortunately, is a bitter, jaded soldier in our
fight. I think in the end, he's really a good guy.
Absorb his wisdom, but don't let him suck you down.
Keep your spirit up!
Pete Surdoval
--- Chris Alpiar <chris at alpiar.com> wrote:
> Together we stand, divided we fall. Really saddens
> my heart to witness you
> guys embracing the destruction of our art. Really
> really bums me out. I'm
> taking a few days off to get energized.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fmpro-bounces+chris=alpiar.com at nxport.com
> [mailto:fmpro-bounces+chris=alpiar.com at nxport.com]
> On Behalf Of Rick Blanc
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 8:42 PM
> To: leshurdle
> Cc: fmpro at nxport.com
> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] Poop......... instead of 'turd'
>
> I thought so but I wanted to be sure! :-)
>
> Fundamentally the impulse to improve things is
> a positive thing. However, the collectivist
> approach is almost certainly fatally flawed.
> The marketplace is brutally individualistic,
> and will increasingly require entrepreneurial
> solutions. What those might be I'm not smart
> enough to know.
>
> Guys like you Les, who have been around, can
> provide valuable insights that should be
> carefully considered. A vision for the future
> is going to have to be based on new and
> innovative approaches if one hopes to capture
> the imagination and loyalty of other
> practitioners, particularly transnationally.
>
> 2 cents more,
>
> Rick
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: leshurdle
> To: Rick Blanc
> Cc: fmpro at nxport.com
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 5:26 PM
> Subject: Re: Poop......... instead of 'turd'
>
>
> Hence the tone of my reply ;-)
>
>
> There is a way to get things
> done/changed.......... be an A list guy and
> then do something.
>
>
> The A lis composers [allegedly] only get $0.20 for
> their scores the same
> as anyone else......... so why aren't they kicking
> up when a song used as
> per thewir score is paid $1.00
>
>
> L
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 16, 2007, at 5:04 PM, Rick Blanc wrote:
>
>
> Les,
>
> Uh-oh. Big misunderstanding! I assure you I
> was most certainly NOT
> calling you anything. The point I was trying to
> make was that Chris
> (Alpiar) by beating this thing to death, was engaged
> in an activity
> analogous to polishing a turd: a futile ridiculous
> exercise. Sorry Les,
> I'll try to be more precise in the future.
>
> Rick
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: leshurdle
> To: Rick Blanc ; fmpro at nxport.com
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 4:07 PM
> Subject: Poop......... instead of 'turd'
>
>
> Hi Rick
>
> I've been called many things, but never a turd
> ;-)
>
> Or maybe there is some connotation in your
> text which, as a new
> American, escapes me ;-(
>
> Here's something for Chris........... during
> the time of the AACO I
> was asked by the CEO of PRS to go and work for
> them as their US
> Rep**. [since I had stirred the pot in the
> USA]............ oh boy,
> could I have used the salary [since I was
> headed for a BK] which was
> by no means small, but that would have meant
> being a mercenary and
> giving up the fight.
>
> I decided to stick it out with my
> 'fellows'............ they sure
> paid me back !
>
> L
>
>
>
> ** I'm sure those PRO staffers who read this
> list will be pleased to
> know I didn't take the job since I would have
> made life hell for many.
>
>
> On Sep 16, 2007, at 10:38 AM, Rick Blanc
> wrote:
>
> > Chris,
> >
> > Have you ever tried to polish a turd?
> >
> > RB
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Chris Alpiar
> > To: fmpro at nxport.com
> > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 10:30 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Fmpro] Mr Alpair
> >
> >
> > Oops thought that was private to les :)
> well its ok I didn't say
> > to him
> > personally what I wouldn't want to say in
> list. What I am truly
> > amazed at is
> > how negative you are Les and how you don't
> want to find change
> > anymore. Fron
> > how you post to ideas of change it almost
> feels like you are on
> > the payroll
> > now... scary thought. You aren't taking
> money from ASCAP or RIAA
> > or someone
> > to derail movement forward right?
> >
> >> Well as far as THIS thread is concerned he
> has no desire for change
> >> and has
> >> contributed zero to this particular
> thought.
> >
> > When you come up with an original thought
> and a plan, you bet
> > I'll be
> > desirous to see it through.
> >
> > CHRIS: The plan MUST come from everyone,
> that is what the
> > freaking thread
> > was about, to try and start a plan
> >
> >> The only thing he has done is
> >> to derail the positive suggestions we were
> FINALLY getting to after
> >> a week
> >> of debate.
> >
> > Just telling like it really is... without
> dreaming.......
> >
> > CHRIS: dreaming is the way to creating.
> It's the first steps on a
>
> > long path.
> > You obviously aren't dreaming enough, or
> your dreams are naught
> but
> > nightmares.
> >
> >> I have deep respect for Les and I don't
> doubt he has tried to
> >> help in his own way a number of times over
> the years. But as far as
> >> this
> >> thread, this idea, well read unbiased and
> you should be able to see
> >> there is
> >> nothing other then his desire to tear apart
> any movement forward we
> >> were
>
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