[Fmpro] Score v Song et. al.

Thu Jan 3 16:27:27 GMT 2008

Yes Fernando, but your statement is as ridiculous as walking into a vegan
convention and talking about the condiments you like on your hamburger.

"After all intelligence and sophistication provided us
with nuclear weapons and toxic waste"

Well actually intelligence provided us with an amazing concept of creating
energy, by splitting an atom. Greed and selfishness along with guilt, fear
and condescending vanity provided us with the weapon, as well as the
implementation of that energy without a better way to deal with the waste it
creates

So what do I take from this? Just forget about it? Don’t bother to fight for
it? Go to sleep more and when we wake up there will no longer be anyone who
bothers to write for orchestra or anything other than the mediocre dogmatic
media-driven tools that are left to write with pre-built loops or ones that
reject your song without lyrics or more then 3 chords? 

Bah. I have a brain and a soul. My life goal is to create art that comes
from both of those parts of me and to be successful with it financially, at
least enough to have a good life and be celebrated for spending the time and
energy to be as excellent as I can be. I hope that I can also be as fluent
as Steven Hawking and to take the very complex and make it accessible to the
masses, but without sacrificing the point of the book (composition). Be a
scientist and evolutionary and explorer with us, not a used car salesman

Hugs

Chris

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:fmpro-bounces+chris=alpiar.com at nxport.com] On Behalf Of Fernando
Rivas
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 8:46 AM
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Subject: Re: [Fmpro] Score v Song et. al.

I agree with everyone on this list when it comes to the inequity of song
versus score and the resulting royalties. But let's get real. Music is not
the only arena where there is such inequity. Firemen, policemen and teachers
routinely make shit money compared to talk show hosts or second rate soap
opera actors or even local news anchors.  People who happen to invent or
develop some silly product that becomes a fad and millions of people buy
makes a lot more bank than some astrophysicist or some biochemical
researcher working on cures for cancer.  Need I mention the extravagant
salaries paid to rock stars, athletes and a host of other people whose
talents and work are certainly not comparable to those of university
professors, concert pianists or brain surgeons?  A free market system boils
everything down to the simplest components, i.e. What the majority of people
want and purchase  not what is good for them as individuals or as a species
 and certainly not what engages their intellects.  Stop and think (if you
stil can!). Maybe intelligence and sophistication are actually negative
adaptive developments in the evolutionary chain of events, a blind alley if
you will.  Maybe stupidity is a better adaptive mechanism to survival for
the human species.  After all intelligence and sophistication provided us
with nuclear weapons and toxic waste. Stupidity provides successful
entrepreneurship and financial security. Over 60 percent of Americans
believe that the world was created just as the Bible says it was.  If I was
selling something those are the customers I¹d be going for  not the ones
who spent thousands of hours of dedicated study and conceptualizing on the
elegance and detail of evolutionary theory.

On 1/2/08 9:28 PM, "Jim Chase" <jchase at billyhalemusic.com> wrote:

> Les Hurdle wrote:
> "Who doesn't want their score music to be paid [@] $1* same as a song
> when used as score?"
> ====
> 
>      Although I'm tempted to respond to Mr. Alpair's idea with a
> hearty, "Yah! What HE say!"  I don't think 5:1 score vs. song is
> gonna happen... at least not in Ms. Bergman's lifetime.
> 
>      From my meager experience with both song and score, I would
> agree that the Craft of scoring music requires much skill.  Composing
> 101 is a delicate balance between enhancing the emotional dynamics of
> the visual, without drawing attention away from it.  OTOH, Performing
> music, especially vocals, also requires a high degree of skill.
> Especially if one does it well enough to attract national attention.
> 
>      Some lyricists make lousy composers, and some composers could
> not write a meaningful lyrical verse -- even at gunpoint -- let alone
> sing one.  There are a gifted few who can do both -- Music AND Lyric
> -- successfully.  No need to cite examples here.  All of us are
> working with equal diligence, and professionalism.
> 
>      I would be willing to split the difference, and fight for 1:1.
> That sounds fair to me.
> 
> Jim Chase
> 
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