[Fmpro] 80% Non-Lyric Penalty?

Mark Northam mnortham at gmdgroup.com
Fri Jan 11 05:15:17 GMT 2008


Pete, I wish you'd be a bit more precise.

I never said "music is whacked with an 80% penalty if it doesn't have
lyrics"

I said "a minute of your music is whacked with an 80% penalty if it doesn't
have lyrics" which refers specifically to the ASCAP weighting formula where
a one minute score cue is paid 20% of what a one minute song cue is paid on
TV, since all songs are awarded feature performance status by default by
ASCAP. That's an 80% penalty for a one minute cue - the typical length of a
film/TV cue - if it's score vs. if it's song. Fact.

Heres' the ASCAP document:
http://www.ascap.com/reference/compendium_rules_regs_rev092507.pdf

See pages 15-18

Are you disputing that?  Are YOU willing to challenge that? Or are you just
trying to muddy the waters a bit?

As you know, ASCAP never puts its distribution rules in its writer or
publisher agreements. And most music students I meet have no idea that score
even paid different than song. When they hear about the weightings at ASCAP,
they're shocked. 

Facts, please, Pete. If you're going to question the integrity of a person
or organization, fine - state your case and your facts. Otherwise, you're
just blowing smoke.

Best,

Mark Northam


On 1/11/08 3:53 PM, "Pete" <musical411 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> --- Mark Northam wrote:
>> Another benefit to keeping your mouth shut and
>> smiling while your minute of music is whacked with >
> a 80% penalty by ASCAP if it doesn't have lyrics.
> 
> Anybody want to challenge the statement that music is
> automatically whacked with an 80% penalty if it
> doesn't have lyrics? Or does everyone accept it as a
> true statement? Has anyone read that in any music biz
> book, heard it in a music biz class, read it in any
> aggreements they signed with ASCAP, heard it anywhere
> other than the Film Music Network?
> 
> Pete
> 
> 
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