[Fmpro] Using a foreign PRO for foreign Royalty Collections

LesHurdle leshurdle at avradionet.com
Wed Jul 2 16:14:00 GMT 2008


Hi Josh,

Please excuse the cut n paste [c n p] below].......

Where do you have product, where do you expect to have product around  
the planet?

Please remember  PRO's receive, they do not collect outside their own  
domestic patch.


On Jul 2, 2008, at 8:50 AM, Josh Silver wrote:

> This is a pretty interesting conversation and has raised some
> curiosity on my part about using foreign PRO's to collect foreign
> royalties for me.
>
> I was until recently under the impression that the main reason to use
> a foreign PRO for foreign collections was to receive foreign royalties
> much faster than if I went through my domestic PRO (SOCAN) to collect
> my foreign royalties.  Now after reading the recent fmpro emails on
> this topic I am a little confused because I have been reading that
> using SACEM or GEMA for example to represent a composer for the
> territory of Europe would not only collect royalties faster, but also
> more accurately than my domestic PRO???  Am I understanding this
> correctly?

Yes you are !!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Previously I have decided against using a foreign PRO for this purpose
> because I was under the impression that the only real benefit was
> quicker royalty payments for international broadcasts.  So since the
> foreign PRO would end up getting a percentage of my royalties in
> exchange for the collections I decided not to do it since I don't mind
> waiting longer for the royalty payments.

They get the % at this time anyway, then you pay extra for SOCAN to  
admin the income.......... go direct !
>
> Now this topic has been opened up again for me as I did not know that
> using SACEM or GEMA would actually increase the accuracy of the
> European collections, I am considering going with SACEM or GEMA as my
> European reps.

You may be entitled to a pension if you sign up with GEMA and/or  
SACEM............ seriously........... join them all, get the  
benefits for all.

e.g.  Join SACEM for all French speaking markets,  SGAE for Spanish  
speaking markets,   PRS for the UK etc etc

I wish I had done so decades ago, but in those days PRS frowned on  
any 'move'.......... ok for publishers though ;-)

I joined ASCAP for the USA and it caused immense concern at  
PRS.............. equally my ASCAP publishing company had my  
'writers' product on air in the UK......... this was interesting, I  
was paid my writers share by PRS but not the publishing by   
ASCAP...............  until one compared statements [for and to  
them]......... then my publishing co and the money was 'found' ...  
clerical error !

Always have the means to cross check, it pays dividends, but really  
upsets staff.

L

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