[Fmpro] Still here

Josh Silver josh at repose.mu
Tue Jul 8 14:34:48 GMT 2008


Thanks so much Sean, I'm clear on all this now.
It's great to have you on this list!

Josh


On Jul 8, 2008, at 9:13 AM, Sean Goble wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I haven't bailed completely, I just needed to pull back a bit.  I'm  
> still
> available if you need me.  Thanks for the appreciation.
>
> Josh:
> You don't necessarily need  to notify us of all of your performances.
> Foreign societies (depending on the society of course) will normally  
> do
> surveys or other data collection to figure out what has been  
> broadcast in
> their territory.  So, as you've noted, you receive foreign money  
> without
> reporting.  However, things don't always work out that cleanly.  For
> whatever reason, be it the show received a name change (translation  
> etc)
> or it just didn't get caught, broadcasts slide through the cracks.   
> As you
> also said, it's hard to keep track of everything and so hopefully the
> stuff you couldn't follow gets caught.  However, it's a good idea to
> follow the shows if possible and compare them to your SOCAN statement,
> making sure you're getting paid by the PROs in the territories you  
> know
> there are performances.  Remember that we pay three quarters behind  
> when
> comparing and that foreign normally only pays once or twice a year.   
> But
> if you don't receive money for performances you know took place,  
> contact
> SOCAN and have this info handy:
>
> Title of the Series/Film
> Episode Title
> Cue Sheet # (can be found in the secure section of our website)
> Country/Territory
> Release Date (Year)
> Station or Festival it was performed
> Air Date
>
> What then happens is we put in a claim with the foreign society and it
> goes from there.  We can also function proactively, sending out
> performance dates that have yet to happen, but these notifications  
> often
> get ignored (it seems that a lot of PROs prefer to be reactive) and  
> so I
> recommend you wait until after you should have been paid.  But the  
> most
> important step of this is to make sure that SOCAN has up-to-date  
> cuesheets
> for the show and all your works are registered.  We can't collect on  
> what
> we don't know exists.
>
> As a publisher, unless you have a subpublisher to back it up, or  
> someone
> actively collecting for you in that foreign territory, I would  
> recommend
> you stay with one PRO ... then you have someone to work for you  
> trying to
> get a claim instead of you having to actually make the phone calls
> yourself.  This is, after all, an industry of relationships.  I,
> personally, think accuracy is debatable as if a PRO catches a  
> performance
> they're going to process, regardless of home country and anything they
> can't ID, they send out "Uni Lists" to all the other societies to  
> attempt
> to identify where the money should go.  At least that's how it works  
> here.
> (Gotta keep slipping in that disclaimer.)  I know there are people who
> will disagree with me on that point, but as Mark has pointed out,  
> there
> are advantages to using SOCAN to collect in the States.
>
> Cheers,
> -Sean
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