[Fmpro] ASCAP

[LesHurdle]

ASCAP is a wonderful idea and no doubt a great org.......... BUT...  
there are those who are currently in power who are abusing that power  
and not paying out as the money comes in.

L

On Jul 29, 2008, at 4:45 PM, David Vogel wrote:

> I have to ask: is it even worth signing up with the ASCAP? they get  
> slagged off so much here and I really have never looked into  
> anything they do. I'm not a member and I'm at the stage where I  
> just don't see any point in giving them the time of day. For me,  
> unions seem to be dead in the water and beuracracies can kiss my  
> butt. But that's just me. I do in fact know what goes on in the  
> fine print from reading governmental legislation and those folks  
> are getting nothing but a very stiff middle finger from me.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: LesHurdle <leshurdle at avradionet.com>
> To: fmpro at nxport.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:54:40 AM
> Subject: [Fmpro] Grrrrrrrrr   Drama King-25% ???
>
> Folks on this list.
>
> You cannot blame businessmen [and some narly gals] for taking
> advantage of composers when you all sit around sucking your thumbs
> while those who are supposed to represent us in an impartial manner
> go about their [PRO] business and rip us all** off.
>
> PLEASE... let's start at the beginning;
>
> Do you know exactly how negotiations take place with broadcasters on
> your behalf
> What is discussed, what data is required etc etc.
>
> If you do know, pray tell, if you don't at least be honest enough to
> fess up and say so.
>
> Come the next election are you going to vote for the 'hit list', will
> you vote for the Board incumbents who have done all but nothing to
> see you get your due and accurate royalty check, but have done a lot
> to see you don't?
>
> C'mon............. wake up
>
> The SHAME [and SHAM board] is the one at ASCAP.
>
>
>
> L
>
> ** not all of-course.. those who have 'deals' at PRO's do very well.
>
> On Jul 29, 2008, at 6:20 AM, Alcheh Daniel wrote:
>
>> Chris, as I told you, we need an online "shame board".
>> Every production company that wants you to score a feature
>> for $1000 (and literally pay out of pocket for their production),
>> every poster on Mandy looking to help us be discovered,
>> every library that robs composers of their fair dues.
>>
>> The internet is cesspool of junk, like people's YouTube videos
>> of their neighbors dog eating cheetos or their their new baby
>> rolling  and burping.
>> It's time to unleash the power of ONLINE.
>> Finally, some worthwhile dirty laundry washed for the whole world to
>> see :-)
>>
>> On Jul 29, 2008, at 8:00 AM, fmpro-request at nxport.com wrote:
>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 9
>>> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:19:41 -0400
>>> From: "Chris Alpiar" <chris at alpiar.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] Drama King-25% ???
>>> To: <musical411 at yahoo.com>, <fmpro at nxport.com>
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>>> Yes Pete is correct, I wouldn't suggest literally telling this guy
>>> to stick
>>> it up his ass! Burning bridges is never a good idea and by keeping
>>> a good
>>> rapport who knows? Maybe he will think of you as something worth
>>> more and
>>> offer a better gig later. I just meant "say no" to him ;-)
>>
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