[Fmpro] BMI / Commercials

[LesHurdle]

Good grief........... are you out of focus Pete... and how dare you  
insinuate jingles composers either;
1	take 'your' money
2	shouldn't be paid.

Trust me........ figure out how the negotiations 'go' at ASCAP & The  
broadcasters and you'll get the real picture.

BTW... don't the 'jingles' generate all of the cash?

L

On Jul 31, 2008, at 7:27 AM, Pete wrote:

> BMI sometimes pays Background and Feature rate for commercials? I  
> didn't know that.
>
> Sounds generous on paper, until you realize how those payments (for  
> the same song played over and over all day) reduce payments to  
> score composers.
>
> Glad I'm with ASCAP.
>
> Pete
>
> --- On Thu, 7/31/08, LesHurdle <leshurdle at avradionet.com> wrote:
>
>> From: LesHurdle <leshurdle at avradionet.com>
>> Subject: [Fmpro] BMI>>> Dave Joining ASCAP/BMI
>> To: fmpro at nxport.com
>> Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 9:11 AM
>> As a BMI Publisher I asked about the payment for
>> commercials;
>>
>> I received the following answer;
>>
>> Please note the 'free air' requirements.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Mr. Hurdle:
>>
>> Thank you for your interest in commercial jingles.  Please
>> take a few
>> moments to review the requirements for submitting
>> commercial jingles.
>>
>> In order for commercial jingles to be processed for
>> payment, the
>> following materials need to be submitted simultaneously to
>> our
>> Commercial Jingle Department:
>>
>> -  A CD(audio), audiocassette, DVD, VHS videotape or
>> QUICKTIME (PC
>> version) of the commercial as broadcast. In the case of TV
>>
>> commercials, the audio portion alone is sufficient.  All
>> tapes must
>> be a final mix with voice-over. Please do not submit studio
>> tapes.
>> These tapes will be retained in our files and not returned
>> to you.
>>
>> -  BMI Commercial Jingles Data Sheet and a copy of the Sync
>> License
>> between the publisher and the advertising agency.  Public
>> performance
>> rights must be clearly conveyed to the writer and
>> publisher.  Only
>> one data sheet form needs to be submitted for each
>> commercial or
>> commercial version.  If use continues after the initial
>> time period
>> covered by the form, a letter from the agency to our
>> Commercial
>> Jingle Department referring to the original form and
>> updating the
>> time buy information is adequate.
>>
>> -  Performance information submitted must include the
>> network or
>> station call letters and the specific air dates for each
>> performance.  Redacted copies of station invoices will also
>> be
>> accepted. BMI encourages electronic submission of airdates
>> on either
>> diskette or E-mail using MICROSOFT EXCEL or other
>> compatible software.
>>
>> Documentation should be submitted to:
>>
>> BMI Commercial Jingle Department, 10 Music Square East,
>> Nashville,
>> TN  37203
>> Or
>> Promos at bmi.com
>>
>> To qualify for Background payment, the commercial jingle
>> must include
>> a minimum of 5 seconds of music, exclusive of any tags,
>> logos, or
>> emblems of a single composition. Background payments are
>> made for
>> performances only on network television - ABC, CBS, NBC,
>> FOX, UPN, WB
>> and Syndicated television.
>>
>> To qualify for Feature payment, the commercial jingle must
>> include an
>> aggregate of 15 seconds or more of sole focus, without
>> voice over of
>> a single composition.  Feature payments are made for
>> performances on
>> network television (ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, UPN, WB) network
>> cable
>> television, syndicated and local television, cable and
>> radio.
>>
>> Please feel free to call me if you have any questions.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Charlie Campbell
>> BMI TV Operations
>> (615) 401-5352
>>
>>
>>
>> I than asked;
>>
>>
>> Hi Charlie,
>>
>> Thanks for the info.
>>
>> I'm intrigued.
>>
>> I have to assume the broadcasters pay for all of the music
>> used on TV
>> either by a blanket license or a PPL license.
>> Since BMI is licensing all music performances to
>> broadcasters under
>> blanket licenses, what happens to the portions of the
>> license fee due
>> composers whose commercials BMI chooses not to pay because
>> it has too
>> much voiceover, etc?
>>
>> Does the addition of voiceover to a commercial which
>> doesn't leave 15
>> seconds of music in the clear effect the value to the
>> broadcaster?
>> Why should this determine whether a composer is paid or not
>> for a
>> legitimate music usage in a national advertising campaign
>> especially
>> since the broadcaster has already pre paid for all of the
>> airtime?
>>
>> I look forward to your reply at your earliest convenience.
>>
>> Les Hurdle
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> So far .... nothing
>>
>> Les
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