[Fmpro] FMPRO Latest Rant: "Where are the Distinctive Voicesinscoring?"

[Fernando Rivas]

I agree but Beethoven did not invent or develop the string quartet. He took
it to another level. As I said he was in a league of his own. He also
expanded the harmonic vocabulary slightly - but he was not so much breaking
with the past as expanding on it.


On 6/2/08 5:08 PM, "Ted Peterson" <ted.peterson at tcsn.net> wrote:

> Are you kidding me? Please reread your history books. Even Grout
> mentions how much Beethoven's music influenced the next generation of
> composers. He is credited with starting the Romantic school. His
> later quartets were so futuristic (Expecially the C#minor) that
> people still have difficulty coming to grips with the works. I can
> write reams of stuff  that Beethoven did that showed up later. For
> example, people always give Beethoven short shrift as an
> orchestrator. However on examination of the symphonies, you can see
> all kinds of trends that defy that opinion.
> 
> Ted Peterson
> 
> On Jun 2, 2008, at 1:04 PM, Fernando Rivas wrote:
> 
>> Ted,
>> 
>> When you say that Beethoven was 'cutting edge' I'm not so sure that
>> such is
>> the case.  He was an innovator in many ways musically but he never
>> created a
>> new form nor did he ever step out of the timbral universe already
>> created by
>> Haydn.  In fact, Haydn in that respect was much more of a
>> formidable force
>> 
> 
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