[Fmpro] Where are the Distinctive Voices In Scoring?

[Scootman Music Productions]

I can't believe the vitriol on this subject - no wonder the scoring  
biz is such a shambles....

Most of the people who've been bantered about are folks whose works I  
admire, and those
I'm unfamiliar with, I'm going to check out..... Daniel, I'm not  
trying to do anything but put your
facts straight: Giacchino studied at Julliard, has written concert  
music, and has been mostly
successful across several different media. Whether or not he equals  
the 40+ year output
of Mr. Williams remains to be seen....

Herrman said he felt it was "the responsibility of any composer to  
write for these mediums.
Mozart and Haydn were not above writing dinner music.... Bach thought  
nothing of writing
his weekly cantatas.... it's only a question of the time one lives  
in." This from a man who studied
with Grainger at Julliard, whose work screamed of the influence of  
Debussy and Ravel but wrote
almost exclusively for radio and picture, and did more as the chief  
conductor and musical
director of the CBS Symphony to champion new music than possibly  
anyone in American history.
Composers, by virtue of our place in the process, are always going to  
be in a tight spot with
content, direction, budget limitations; etc. What are any of you  
doing by only passing judgement
here? Are any of you part of the solution, or are you a part of the  
bigger problem? It's ridiculous
anymore to imagine that anyone who is succeeding in music today is  
just coasting by...

Most of this topic reads like a bunch of adolescent, testosterone  
laden "my hero's better than
your hero" nonsense - the failings of 20th century music academia and  
it's boorish judgements
on anything written for profit are well in play, as well as a great  
deal of unfortunate bitterness.
Never mind the fact that film and TV today are no different from the  
musical theater & opera of
yesterday.....

Don't y'all have something you should be writing? For God's sake, do  
something!

  - Scott


On Jun 3, 2008, at 10:57 AM, Alcheh Daniel wrote:

> I cannot believe someone can put Giachcino and Williams in the same
> category.
> It is just ridiculous. Williams is a composer. If the art of film
> died tomorrow and ceased
> to exist Williams would be conducting, performing and writing
> symphonic music (music
> you like or dislike). He's a real musician. Giacchino and his ilk are
> working in the business
> of writing effective music for film. Without the structure and paid
> helpers afforded by the business
> they would still be practicing reading C clefs. They would be selling
> comic books if not for their multiple
> computers, orchestrators, assistants and lots of money..
> I want to see Giacchino sitting behind a grand piano accompanying Yo
> Yo Ma in front of a full hall.
> Come on people!
> By the way, does anyone know Williams' concert oeuvre. His concertos,
> etc.
> Might not be someone's cup tea. What does that prove?
>
> DA