[Fmpro] 1:1 finer points

[chris@alpiar.com]

well from how I understand it the problem is that background vocal gets paid at 100% and background instrumental gets paid at 20%. And as background instrumental music is most music on tv and film there is a lot of moula not getting spread fairly. So what I am trying to understand is do you want backgrounds to all be equal and visuals to all be equal and you are ok if they are different pay rates as long as the 2 categories are paid together (backgrounds the same, visuals the same)
As for background vocal paid as visual, your argument "If people are listening to the lyrics, isn't it in the foreground?"
Possibly, but if people are listening to the music isnt it in the foreground also? Who is to say when the audience is or is not listening? All we can clarify is that visual means the audience SEES the performer and background the audience does NOT SEE the performers on the screen



Christopher Kennedy Alpiar
Cinematic Composer
http://www.alpiar.com/

-----Original Message-----
From: Pete [mailto:musical411 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 11:44 PM
To: fmpro at nxport.com
Subject: Re: [Fmpro] 1:1 finer points

A: is fine with me as long as it doesn't cause all the songwriters to take their valuable catalog out of ASCAP and over to BMI. And if ASCAP paid jingles and promos the same as background instrumental, I'd take my instrumental catalog over to BMI. B: Visual Vocal and Visual Instrumental are currently paid the same. Actually, Visual Instrumental is paid as much as ANY vocal. Vocal Theme and Instrumental Theme are currently paid the same. The question is, "what's a Background Vocal usage"? If people are listening to the lyrics, isn't it in the foreground? Pete --- On Tue, 6/24/08, Christopher Alpiar wrote: > From: Christopher Alpiar > Subject: [Fmpro] 1:1 finer points > To: fmpro at nxport.com > Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 10:58 PM > This is REALLY important and the answer here will have some > serious > impact to some hopefully forward moving stuff. I really > appreciate > some answer from the old school gang on this :) Thanks! > > When you say you want 1:1 and when you say PROs in Europe > pay 1:1 do > you mean that > > A. ALL music used in a show, regardless of Visual, > Background, Source, > Theme, instrumental, Vocal - it should ALL be paid the same > exactly? > > B. ALL music in the SAME CATEGORY regardless of vocal or > instrumental > should be paid the same? (IE VISUAL VOCAL and VISUAL > INSTRUMENTAL paid > the same and BACKGROUND VOCAL and BACKGROUND INSTRUMENTAL > paid the > same but VISUAL paid on a different scale than BACKGROUND, > and THEME > paid on a different scale) > > > Christopher Kennedy Alpiar > Cinematic Composer > 937.294.0900 (Dayton Studio) > 310.339.9603 (Los Angeles) > 877.294.0912 (Toll Free) > www.alpiar.com _______________________________________________ The Film Music Pro List is sponsored by Film Music Magazine - http://www.filmmusicmag.com Best of FMPRO: http://www.fmproquotes.com - Quotes site by Billy Hale Music To edit your list options or unsubscribe, visit: http://nxport.com/mailman/listinfo/fmpro