[Fmpro] Organizizing

Wed Jun 25 17:42:53 GMT 2008

Actually there is a small group of us who are currently working on just
this! :-) We have been working daily (when we arent writing music) on this
and in about 3 weeks 4 max we will be unveiling the whole concept. Many of
the most popular and most knowledgeable on the subject are involved in this
and I think the result is going to be something extraordinary.

As to SCL I am and many here are members of the SCL. While it is a very fine
organization it and I highly recommend it to any composer or lyricist, it is
more about petitioning construction sites near some of the more prominent
recording studios in LA and about dinner parties and promoting its members
in some unique and cool ways. At one point in time they were a little more
involved in resolving composer issues politically. However today they are
not actively pursuing it(to my knowledge) and are fairly aligned politically
with ASCAP and the Academy. People like Mark Northam who were on the board
of the SCL could tell you lots more.

Anyhow when we get closer to releasing this org we will definitely invite
everyone on this list to join, discuss, debate the group we are forming. I
would like to have had everything up and running and open for talk a month
ago, however trying to do this monumental task while keeping working in the
music biz and depending on people all over the world to participate on their
free time makes it a little slow going, but we have opted to go slower and
get it right rather than jump into unknowns. 

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Christopher Kennedy Alpiar
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: fmpro-bounces+chris=alpiar.com at nxport.com 
> [mailto:fmpro-bounces+chris=alpiar.com at nxport.com] On Behalf 
> Of Edrums at aol.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:57 PM
> To: fmpro at nxport.com
> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] FMPRO Digest, Vol 38, Issue 36 Composer PAC
> 
> Fellow composers:
> 
> For anyone who might be interested...Creating some kind of composer's 
> organization seems to be a popular idea on this list.   Scott 
> Hallgren has been kind 
> enough to give us information regarding the formation of a 
> PAC (Political 
> Action Committee).   It is a 501c6 type organization, and can 
> be set up in a few 
> days.   The filing fee for a 501c6 is about $100, the PAC 
> itself, is $750 to 
> register.   That's $850, or about $1.06 per person on this 
> list (or more if only 
> a few of us wanted to start it).   PAC's typically include 
> lawyers (there's 
> at least one on this list), labor (AFM?), and special 
> interests (all of us).
> 
> As I look deeper into the world of PACs, they are really 
> about influencing 
> elections (government).   Whether we need a PAC, or simply a 
> non-profit arts 
> organization (501c3, cheaper to create, I'm guessing), I 
> don't know.   But I do 
> know, we need something, such as a very specific organization 
> like an "American Film Composers Association"?
> 
> OR... Who knows anything about:   Society of Composers & Lyricists   
> (http://www.thescl.com)   I'm not a member, just discovered 
> this.   Can it be of help 
> to our PRO problems?   (This organization descended from the 
> Screen Composers 
> Association set up by Herrmann, Steiner, etc.) - $135 and up 
> to join.   Note 
> the SCL Requirements for Full Membership: (student and 
> associate memberships avail - non-voting, same price) Film 
> Composers: 1 motion picture credit (unreleased films count) 
> or 4 "additional music by" credits or 20 minutes of cue sheet 
> credit from any number of shows.
> Television Composers: 1 episode or TV movie credit on free or 
> cable TV (pilots count) or 20 minutes of cue sheet credit 
> from any number of shows.
> Songwriters/Lyricists: 1 source or featured song placed in a 
> motion picture or television program.
> Game Composers: An aggregate of 30 minutes of original music 
> composed for any number of released titles. Only games that 
> contain recorded music will be considered for eligibility.
> Sounds like a "Guild" to me.   I wonder what would happen if 
> they got another 
> 800 members?
> 
> OR, It seems to me, there's probably a dozen of composers 
> organizations across the US (one in Seattle I'm in), so maybe 
> an Association of Composers 
> Associations!   - believe it or not, there are organizations 
> of organizations!
> 
> OR we just start our own PRO!
> 
> Ed Hartman
> edhartmanmusic.com
> edrums at aol.com
> 
> 
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