[Fmpro] 1:1 finer points

[LesHurdle]

1-1 answers it all

But who doesn't want that......... some on this list?

L

On Jun 24, 2008, at 9:42 PM, chris at alpiar.com wrote:

> well from how I understand it the problem is that background vocal  
> gets paid at 100% and background instrumental gets paid at 20%. And  
> as background instrumental music is most music on tv and film there  
> is a lot of moula not getting spread fairly. So what I am trying to  
> understand is do you want backgrounds to all be equal and visuals  
> to all be equal and you are ok if they are different pay rates as  
> long as the 2 categories are paid together (backgrounds the same,  
> visuals the same)
> As for background vocal paid as visual, your argument "If people  
> are listening to the lyrics, isn't it in the foreground?"
> Possibly, but if people are listening to the music isnt it in the  
> foreground also? Who is to say when the audience is or is not  
> listening? All we can clarify is that visual means the audience  
> SEES the performer and background the audience does NOT SEE the  
> performers on the screen
>
>
>
> Christopher Kennedy Alpiar
> Cinematic Composer
> http://www.alpiar.com/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pete [mailto:musical411 at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 11:44 PM
> To: fmpro at nxport.com
> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] 1:1 finer points
>
> A: is fine with me as long as it doesn't cause all the songwriters  
> to take their valuable catalog out of ASCAP and over to BMI. And if  
> ASCAP paid jingles and promos the same as background instrumental,  
> I'd take my instrumental catalog over to BMI. B: Visual Vocal and  
> Visual Instrumental are currently paid the same. Actually, Visual  
> Instrumental is paid as much as ANY vocal. Vocal Theme and  
> Instrumental Theme are currently paid the same. The question is,  
> "what's a Background Vocal usage"? If people are listening to the  
> lyrics, isn't it in the foreground? Pete --- On Tue, 6/24/08,  
> Christopher Alpiar wrote: > From: Christopher Alpiar > Subject:  
> [Fmpro] 1:1 finer points > To: fmpro at nxport.com > Date: Tuesday,  
> June 24, 2008, 10:58 PM > This is REALLY important and the answer  
> here will have some > serious > impact to some hopefully forward  
> moving stuff. I really > appreciate > some answer from the old  
> school gang on this :) Thanks! > > When you say you want 1:1 and  
> when you say PR!
>  Os in Europe > pay 1:1 do > you mean that > > A. ALL music used in  
> a show, regardless of Visual, > Background, Source, > Theme,  
> instrumental, Vocal - it should ALL be paid the same > exactly? > >  
> B. ALL music in the SAME CATEGORY regardless of vocal or >  
> instrumental > should be paid the same? (IE VISUAL VOCAL and VISUAL  
> > INSTRUMENTAL paid > the same and BACKGROUND VOCAL and BACKGROUND  
> INSTRUMENTAL > paid the > same but VISUAL paid on a different scale  
> than BACKGROUND, > and THEME > paid on a different scale) > > >  
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