[Fmpro] Opera

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Louis, I think you're seriously overreacting to Marinho's story, which I 
understood to be about not letting the orchestra get ahead of you, 
especially if you happen to be young and still without cache. To put things 
in perspective I heard a wonderful anecdotal story of Bernard Herrmann 
throwing his shoe at a player and nailing him in the head with it. Compared 
to this I would say Marinho is a saint. / All this reminds me of an incident 
when I was in grad school studying painting at the Yale School of Fine Art. 
We had a few hot-shit instructors floating around, including Julian Schnabel 
and Mel Bochner. One day I was walking past a female student's studio and I 
heard her crying. I stopped, and observed the door to her studio open and 
Bochner preparing to exit. Half way out the door he turned and said "Oh 
stop, you don't have to cry about it." Then he seemed to peer intently back 
into her studio, looking around, and then he added "On second thought, go 
ahead and cry. If I made those paintings I'd be crying too." When I teach I 
always inform my students that art is not fair. Fair is for baseball and 
children sharing a sandbox, but the arts are brutal in that the only thing 
that matters is quality. A work of art, or a performance of a work, is 
either fine or inferior. Marinho being firm that a musician's performance is 
lacking is professionally essential. - JohnB

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Louis King" <lking1 at nyc.rr.com>
To: <fmpro at nxport.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Fmpro] Opera


> WOW LOL ...... so you felt the best way you could lead an orchestra
> was to embarrass someone ...
>
> I've conducted maybe 1500 or more  recording sessions with 60 piece
> groups to big bands to quartets and I don't think I've ever had the
> need to create a great performance by demeaning anyone in the group.
>
>
> On Mar 1, 2008, at 3:29 PM, Marinho Nobre wrote:
>
>> if I record in NYC sometime will you come conduct for me Marinho?
>> It will be my pleasure... In NYC or anywhere else. Have batoon,
>> will travel...
>>
>> Musicians are what make conducting a tricky thing. On my very few
>> first
>> ventures, I had to deal with all sorts of cracks from wise ass
>> Juilliard
>> students. One thing I have learned that overcomes all problems is
>> called
>> respect.  Once I started cracking back at them and made them
>> understand
>> that they had to work hard and take me seriously or else, evrything
>> started sounding
>> a lot better. At some point I was banned from conducting on
>> composition classes
>> after I made a French Horn girl walk out of the class in tears. She
>> made the same mistake
>> 3 times. I interrupted the class and asked her. What's your name
>> dear ? She told me her
>> name and asked me why I wanted to know. I then mentioned that I
>> wanted to make
>> sure that I would never ever ever hire her for any of my work. I
>> was suspended for 3 weeks,
>> enough time for the word to go around, and next time I showed up it
>> was a breeze man.
>> I never had to say a word. They all read my eyes and gave their
>> very best.
>> I will be going to Prague later this year, lets see how they do...
>>
>>
>> Marinho Nobre
>> Music for Motion Picture
>> score at marinhonobre.com
>> Voice 347-424-4985  Fax - (718) 210-3151
>> http://www.marinhonobre.com
>> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1971862/
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