[Fmpro] anyone seen this technology?? O.o

[James Ryan]

I agree, Alain.  A great vocal performance has a lot more going for it  
than pitch.  The ability of a singer to make you feel something is a  
magical quality that comes from the heart.  If I'm in the studio  
producing a singer who nails it, has people falling off their chairs  
and happens to have a note or two that are a little sharp or flat,  
this tool is a Godsend.  I have used the current version of Melodyne  
for exactly that.  Same with solo instruments like violin.  I get the  
great performance and the great pitch.  A boring singer or a boring  
performance by a good singer will not benefit from this tool any more  
than a horrible sounding virtual instrument or synth will benefit from  
midi time correction.

My only caveat is that if you're using it too much, you might want to  
look into hiring better performers.

Here's another thought.  You write a beautiful piano violin duet for a  
cue.  You hire great players.  They give you an amazing performance  
and go home.  Next day, the director changes the edit and inserts a  
happy little piece of dialog where you have written gut wrenching  
sorrow.  The budget is used up.  Now wouldn't it be nice to have this  
tool to change a couple of chords from minor to major?  I have been in  
this situation and been lucky enough to still be in the midi realm  
when the change was made.  Had I finished the recording, I'd have been  
totally screwed.  Not with Melodyne....

Best,

James


On Mar 13, 2008, at 3:18 PM, Alain Mayrand wrote:

> This is a bit like digital stunt performers, isn't it? It takes the
> magic right out of it.
>
> Or listening to all these singers requiring pitch correction, I mean  
> how
> can you take them seriously?
>
> This is a technical exercise, a great accomplishment from a  
> programmer's
> perspective, but I am not worried, music magic is in the human  
> performance.
>
> A perfect computer performance is soulless, a perfect human  
> performance
> is magic. (By perfect I mean one that seems to be, of course...)  
> People
> want to see people make music, and great performers are the  
> lifeblood of
> music.
>
> I can't see it changing any time soon.
>
> However, what worries me is that all of these technological crutches  
> has
> allowed people into the music world which have no business there. Or  
> at
> least, they should have studied and practiced more...!
>
> Alain
>
>
>
>
>
>
> chris at alpiar.com wrote:
>> I thought about technology all night and our whole bleeding to the  
>> bone industry. A ship sinking even though the hull is built of the  
>> lifeforce of hundreds of thousands of talented people who have  
>> shared their souls, and needed to share it so badly they couldnt do  
>> something else to make money in this material world (along with  
>> more then a few hacks who pretended) and succumbed to a captain of  
>> greed to command their vessel. One who only thought about short  
>> term and never watched the water change and start to be filled with  
>> metal objects which quickly tore the hull away. Now he runs around  
>> with some duct tape and yells at the boat to go faster so he can  
>> squeeze his last few drops out before he lets it sink into the  
>> rotting water.
>>
>> One thing is certain in 20 years from now what technology does and  
>> what humans do to make music will be very very different from what  
>> we do today. Let's make sure that as we progress into the cool  
>> electric blue smoke funk of the future that we keep in mind what is  
>> music, what is art, what is humanity, what is the human soul. And  
>> as each stems from the one after, we need to practice  
>> acknowledging, studying and aggrandizing our roots while we move  
>> forward into unexplored territory. Being a scientist requires  
>> mastering history. Today not only in fear of spending energy  
>> recreating the wheel, but in fear of creating something solely  
>> soulless, something made of machine with no relation to the human  
>> soul, the human condition, or the emotional state of the times.
>>
>> Christopher Kennedy Alpiar
>> Cinematic Composer
>> http://www.alpiar.com/
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: chris at alpiar.com [mailto:chris at alpiar.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 04:06 AM
>> To: fmpro at nxport.com
>> Subject: [Fmpro] anyone seen this technology?? O.o
>>
>> http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=dna I saw this link on the  
>> northernsounds forums...this is unbelievable, and no not his crazy  
>> beard and hair... Christopher Kennedy Alpiar Cinematic Composer http://www.alpiar.com/ 
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