[Fmpro] The TRUE Curse of Marinho...

[chris@alpiar.com]

Marinho, I love ya to death man, so dont take it wrong - But there are tons of places online to fraternize on the art. This is the only place I have found so far that actaully digs into the nitty gritty of what's wrong with our business so far. By all means no topic should be left out, and yes we as composers need *need* to discuss and learn from our peers on all manner of topics outside of the business portion. But it is at least equally important. I for one do not agree with Les that the business comes before the music, but we are really in a sad state today, worse than ever in history of composers. And it is only through public awareness of these issues that we are confronted with can we begin to have a community. This is after all "film music" which is a branch of a massive money making industry. So its like "pop music" in the sense that while some of us may be artists, and there certainly is a LOT to talk about regarding the art and craft, there is an overwhelming importance to the business of it.

Hey Pete, take it easy man! I love ya too and even if you are the devil's advocate sometimes on discussions on this list regarding ascap dont get so bent! Marinho is an awesome guy and as composers we all get a little freaky sometimes. I dont think Marinho was attacking you, just blowing some creative juice. Of course spam when you arent in the mood for the joke can be annoying but just let it go

Let's all take a breather and be friends! I dont think Long Island is big enough for you two really awesome people in your own ways to be seething, and our community certainly isnt big enough

Meanwhile can everyone on this list prove to me that you are serious about your future and go read and make some suggestions or even a grunt of approval for the ascap composer bill of rights? Just nod agreeance or rip it apart piece by piece, whatever feels right to you

http://composersforum.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=773368%3ATopic%3A37019

:P

Thanks!

Christopher Kennedy Alpiar
Cinematic Composer
http://www.alpiar.com/

-----Original Message-----
From: Marinho Nobre [mailto:marinho at manommg.com]
Sent: Friday, May 2, 2008 10:39 AM
To: fmpro at nxport.com
Subject: [Fmpro] The TRUE Curse of Marinho...

Pete, congratulations on losing your cool and on your direct ultra low class attack. You have finally managed to show everyone who you trully are, congratulations for shooting yourself in the foot... Yes, maybe I have had posted a display of the harsh reality that this post has been suffering. It's been stagnated by hard-heads like you who seem to forget that this is a composer's forum and not a legal number check central for the poor minded mentally masturbating their little numeric bank account paranoia and daily boring the living crap out of everyone. How about you accounting composer wannabe's start emailing yourselves directly outside of here and let this place be a true composer's forum, instead of asking people to skip 98% of your puke inducing money counting posts ? My ASCAP ASCAP posts were placed as a sign of respect to everyone who came here seeking knowledge on the general craft of composing, people who bring great subjects, have an open mind and also have respect for the art of making music. People who enjoy sharing information that is trully useful, as from day one none of your little bitch dancing about who approved what at some financial office has never made anyone as little as one cent richer. I aplaud everyone who supported me, as I aplaud everyone who in a much more polite manner than I did tries very hard to skip the subject and turn things into a different direction. I aplaud Mark Northam who I know by heart would be very glad to see this change happening, but as a sort of mediator on this site very often ends up tangled on your sad unstoppable and selfish monetary discussions. Discussions that no matter what header title may start on a different subject are rudely turned by the likes of you, again, on a royalty money driven and ultimately pointless discussion ending, yes... with ASCAP ASCAP. Art is being often overwhelmed by money. That's why the art of film scoring and the art of making music are beginning to be reduced to a mere commodity. Music libraries have brainlessly dominated the scene, taking work from hard working composers while loop software companies watch and aplaud all wannabe's pretending to be what they are not. All a very sad sign of greed, as you and all other ASCAP daily blabbers are. Your selfishness and disregard for others make me feel nothing but sorry for people like you. No different than lawyers, counting numbers and ruinning over everyone's patience over your own little ambitions. Yes I could leave this forum, is clearly just a click away. But I have a better idea... I will make my mission to make the lives of people like you a living hell here until you decide to have a lobotomy and realize that you should be working on a bank instead. To Doug and everyone else who necessarily uses ASCAP as a subject and with moderation, please do not take me the wrong way. I support ASCAP even though we all know they have a way to go in order to make things perfect for everyone and have no problem joinning an occasional royalty discussion. But Pete man..., give yourself a tap in the back, again you have shown everyone the surface of poorness and mediocrity and finally lost your cool giving everyone on this forum the clear image of non reason defense. Thank you for that. As a retribution to your favor, here we go... ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP Go get yourself a job on an accountant firm that is if music itself means nothing to you... PS - JohnB - I wished momentarily that the shinning was real life... Imagine me walking into these people's home and saying... "Honney... I'm Home !!!!" Marinho Nobre Music for Motion Picture score at marinhonobre.com Voice 347-424-4985 Fax - (718) 210-3151 http://www.marinhonobre.com http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1971862/ _______________________________________________ The Film Music Pro List is sponsored by Film Music Magazine - http://www.filmmusicmag.com Best of FMPRO: http://www.fmproquotes.com - Quotes site by Billy Hale Music To edit your list options or unsubscribe, visit: http://nxport.com/mailman/listinfo/fmpro