[Fmpro] FMPRO Digest, Vol 37, Issue 4
bipcress@comcast.net
bipcress at comcast.net
Fri May 2 23:19:14 GMT 2008
Brad, you make some good points (so you should probably be less quiet). I
still believe it was not necessary for Pete to drag the forum into a
beer-stink seedy saloon. Maybe Marinho gave us a bit of the "High School
drama queen bitch-out", but without foul language nor name calling. There is
a difference. As for Les leaving, I don't think anybody here has anything to
apologize for (except maybe Pete > Marinho). Les is a solid guy, but I have
seen the exact same thing happen at a Euro-cult soundtrack collectors board
I used to co-moderate. There was a particular member who was very respected
and a well-known expert, this guy teaches University classes and wrote the
first English language book examining the spaghetti western genre. The day
finally arrived when certain opinions were expressed contrary to his, and
arguments put directly to him, and he didn't like it so he left. Few of us
liked to see him go, but it had an air of inevitability to it - seemed like
he was gonna get pissed enough to split sooner or later no matter what. To
stick with these forums one has to be very diplomatic and tolerant - there
are a lot of people here, and from all over the world. These boards aren't
always safe havens, nor are they private little get-togethers with a few old
friends, and the shit will occasionally hit the fan (Pete's "fuck yourself"
for example) and the group will occasionally get stuck good 'n ugly on one
point of contention (what Marinho obvious got very sick of). To stay the
course there is only one method: deal with it. - JohnB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Heck" <brad at bradheck.com>
To: <fmpro at nxport.com>
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Fmpro] FMPRO Digest, Vol 37, Issue 4
>
> I do attempt to stay fairly quiet on the list, out of respect for it.
> Nobody wants
> to hear my rantings, and I don't especially enjoy reading others. I skip
> over a good
> deal of posts here. Some seriously astute people, which I count as
> friends have left
> this list recently. I believe Pete called out the type of post that
> entices real
> educated people to leave this list, he used the F word, for
> which I shall wash his mouth with soap, but my feeling is we wish everyone
> to
> respect the LIST as much as the individual. This is a wonderful forum to
> air concerns,
> learn about key topics, and even band together for a common goal per Chris
> A's plea.
> To fill it will non-sense is counter productive, and in my view childish.
>
> I nearly responded to the ASCAP BLAH post my self, but felt Pete made the
> position
> clear(including the F bomb). This is a great place to network and learn.
> Let's keep it that way.
> We lost Shawn and Les. Shawn may not have posted, but he read! I know.
> We spoke of it
> both in person and on the phone. We had his ear, and what did we tell
> him?
>
> Think before you post people. Mark N and his team have put something
> together that
> WORKS for us, but only if we let it.
>
> HECK
>
>
>
>
> Marinho's harsh, satirical posts were overtly emotional and at worst
> reactionary, but (unless I missed something) not personalized - no names,
> name calling, or targeted invectives - which is indicative of a
> gentleman -
> a blatantly pissed-off gentleman, but a gentleman nonetheless. Sorry,
> Pete.
> I think what you said was un-cool. Maybe an "FM-unPRO" kind of thing to
> do. - JohnB
>
>
>
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>> Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 12:00:44 +0000
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>> 1. Re: (fmpro) Extremelly important message for composers
>> (bipcress at comcast.net)
>> 2. Re: Poor Marinho... (poolenet at aol.com)
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>> Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 04:40:36 -0400
>> From: <bipcress at comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] (fmpro) Extremelly important message for
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>> To: <fmpro at nxport.com>
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>> Marinho's harsh, satirical posts were overtly emotional and at worst
>> reactionary, but (unless I missed something) not personalized - no names,
>> name calling, or targeted invectives - which is indicative of a
>> gentleman -
>> a blatantly pissed-off gentleman, but a gentleman nonetheless. Sorry,
>> Pete.
>> I think what you said was un-cool. Maybe an "FM-unPRO" kind of thing to
>> do. - JohnB
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Pete" <musical411 at yahoo.com>
>> To: <fmpro at nxport.com>
>> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 2:54 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] (fmpro) Extremelly important message for composers
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>> > As someone who has often disagreed on ASCAP matters
>> > with Mark Northam, Mark Holden, Les Hurdle and others,
>> > I still find Marinho's recent posts a slap in the
>> > face!
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>> > I know many of us put a LOT of their personal time and
>> > thought into their posts. There have been many days
>> > that I put aside my $work$ and lied down pissed off
>> > thinking about how to respond to an ASCAP-related
>> > post. Yep, I've lost sleep over it. But, I know
>> > everyone really has the best interest of composers in
>> > mind. Although we disagree bitterly on the best
>> > approach.
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>> > You've always had the option to unsubscribe, or ignore
>> > all ASCAP-related posts. Or in layman's terms, GO FUCK
>> > YOURSELF MARINHO! (You seem to like all caps.)
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>> > Pete
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>> > --- Marinho Nobre <marinho at manommg.com> wrote:
>> >> IN CASE NO ONE GOT MY PREVIOUS MESSAGE, YOU MUST
>> >> READ THIS
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>> >> SINCLE CUE AGAIN !!!!!! BEWARE OF THE ROYALTY GODS
>> >> OF THURNDER !!!!
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>> >> ASCAP ULA ULA ASCAP BLAH BLAH BLAH ASCAP ASCAP
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 06:31:48 -0400
>> From: poolenet at aol.com
>> Subject: Re: [Fmpro] Poor Marinho...
>> To: fmpro at nxport.com
>> Message-ID: <8CA7A56DC41D982-FBC-2FA9 at FWM-M29.sysops.aol.com>
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>> Poor Marinho,
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>> It is a sad sight to see... Couple of years ago I knew a guy who BMI'd
>> himself to death. Tsk, Les leaving and now, this... sniff...
>>
>> Don Poole
>> poolebrothersmusic.com
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>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Marinho Nobre" <marinho at manommg.com>
>> To: <fmpro at nxport.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 11:04 PM
>> Subject: [Fmpro] (fmpro) Extremelly important message for composers
>>
>>
>> > IN CASE NO ONE GOT MY PREVIOUS MESSAGE, YOU MUST READ THIS
>> > OTHERWISE YOU WILL BE DOOMED AND NEVER BE ABLE TO WRITE A
>> > SINCLE CUE AGAIN !!!!!! BEWARE OF THE ROYALTY GODS OF THURNDER !!!!
>> >
>> > ASCAP ULA ULA ASCAP BLAH BLAH BLAH ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP
>> > MORE ASCAP SHOVE THE DAMN THING ON EVERYONE S THROAT ASCAP
>> > ASCAP ASCAP
>> >
>> > I M GOING TO ASCAP MYSELF TO DEATH
>> >
>> > ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASCAP ASC
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