[Fmpro] The TRUE Curse of Marinho...

bipcress@comcast.net bipcress at comcast.net
Sat May 3 05:19:51 GMT 2008


Alain, I have been thinking all along (as IMHO) that your response to 
Marinho's Jack Nicholson/Jack Torrence-inspired outburst was how Marinho 
intended it to be absorbed - enjoyed for it's creativity while 
simultaneously understood as being an outlandish expression of extreme 
frustration. Marinho's now infamous posts are prime examples of what an 
actual artist will tend to "eject" when under stress. I've done it myself.
    When I was an art student at CMU we had a fellow, Simon, who spoke using 
an annoying and nonsensical pseudo intellectual-speak (they actually used to 
do skits based on this phenomena on IN LIVING COLOR). Simon, otherwise a 
sweet guy, would drown you in a seemingly unending stream of 
vocabulary-babble that sounded something like this: "Well I think the 
aforementioned dichotomy of colorations and flatulisms are overwhelmed by 
any sort of callous texture and bean bags of meaningful superfluousness, if 
ya know what I mean." I actually liked the guy and would hang with him, but 
his pointless bullshit drove me nuts, and making it worse was the fact that 
everyone else seemed too timid to call Simon on it. I was not too timid and 
did, on numerous occasions, attempt to explain to him that he was fooling no 
one by trying to fake an extensive vocabulary and a high skill with 
"art-speak". "Just be yourself Simon!" I would implore of him. One day we 
were having a group-crit in design class. Fine, except I had a blistering 
headache. I sat myself in a corner in the back of the room. The professor 
eventually gets to Simon and has him speak about his piece. God, it was 
awful! On and on and on he went, sweating profusely and straining ever 
harder to make ludicrous sentences out of every "big" word he could remember 
hearing (but did not understand). The professor, obviously because Simon was 
black, was not stopping this interminable horror-show for fear of being 
labeled racially insensitive. My head pounding I finally screamed at the top 
of my lungs "Will someone please set him on fire and end the agony?" Was 
that the best way to resolve the situation? No. Did my cruel but creatively 
dramatic image of Simon ablaze like a Salem warlock stop the agony? Yes. I 
have no regrets: I liked Simon, I spent time with him trying to help him (no 
one else did), I sometimes get very angry, and I am an artist and I act and 
react like one. - JohnB

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alain Mayrand" <mail at alainmayrand.com>
To: <fmpro at nxport.com>
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Fmpro] The TRUE Curse of Marinho...


>I agree with Chris,
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> No topic left out.
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> By all means discuss it, offer your informed opinion.
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> I saw Marinho's piece on ASCAP as a sort of automaton poetry.
> Personally, I rather enjoyed it and did not perceive it as aggressive
> (even though it was all caps). But that is just me...
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> chris at alpiar.com wrote:
>> Marinho, I love ya to death man, so dont take it wrong - But there are 
>> tons of places online to fraternize on the art. This is the only place I 
>> have found so far that actaully digs into the nitty gritty of what's 
>> wrong with our business so far. By all means no topic should be left out,
>
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