[Fmpro] Marinho's ASCAP

Tue May 6 00:58:32 GMT 2008

It wasn't my "F-bomb" Mark. But for what it's worth I do have the nasty 
habit of using foul language. My wife is frustrated by how long it is taking 
me to get over this. I do much better avoiding cussing on-line, it must be 
easier to tame the fingers than the mouth.
    It is not my place to respond to the issue of business/money/ASCAP 
technicalities being discussed here. I am not a musician, my professional 
affiliation with music is as a journalist and I am respectfully grateful to 
be a member of this board. I view it as an extreme privilege that here at 
FMPRO I am allowed to be in association with composers. If I may humbly 
express an opinion, I think it would be a given that you guys would meet 
here and hash over your shared business problems. If not here, then where?
    In that I am a trained artist (painter), I do feel I have the right to 
argue for the validity and overwhelming importance of musicians also using 
FMPRO as a place to share ideas and opinions about the science and esthetics 
of music. You gentlemen have a great opportunity here. Usually the joy of 
highly cultured and intellectually profound discourse amongst matured 
artists ends when they leave University with their Masters or Doctorates. 
The studio for a painter or composer can be a lonely place. After leaving 
grad school I frequently hungered for such heated and meaty debate and 
fellowship.
    I regret Mark that you seem to have engaged in scholarly congress with 
certain assholes (told you I swore) who reacted as such to your views and 
visions as regards the Arts. Don't let the immaturity of a few stop you from 
sharing with me and others of FMPRO your deepest thoughts about the methods 
and meanings of Art. You have my solemn vow I will not get "overly" 
emotional. I am a professional, and I believe most of this board's 
membership are also. The most exciting minds belong to creative people, and 
I want to know what they are thinking and I desire to be gifted with 
insights into how they create! - JohnB

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark McKee" <mark at unm.edu>
To: <fmpro at nxport.com>
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 8:04 PM
Subject: [Fmpro] Marinho's ASCAP


> I'd like to weigh in briefly, and admit that I wanted to drop the F-Bomb 
> on Marinho as well, because I knew that many of our gifted and talented 
> "artists" on this list, still don't really "get it" when it comes to 
> including text in your reply, and hence, I've had to repeatedly scroll 
> through that stupid message for over a week now.  It may have only cost me 
> less than 30 minutes, but that was my 30 minutes of my life and I find 
> that unacceptable.  Every human's time is valuable.
>
> I come to this list to find information on the business side that I can 
> find nowhere else.  I rely (relied) on Les and Doug, and everyone else to 
> give valuable insight based on their real life PRO experiences both 
> positive and negative.  Frankly, I couldn't give a hoot about discussing 
> the "artistic" side of things as I, like all of you, have a very personal 
> perception of what constitutes art and artists, and I have found that my 
> views in this area seem to generate overly emotional responses.  I don't 
> mind those discussions though, as I can always skip over them, as on is 
> free to skip over ASCAP subjects.
>
> I'm curious at the (over)reaction to JohnB's f-bomb though.  Seems a 
> little like the Ladies Tolerance League, but hey, maybe I'm a little 
> crude.
>
> It would be nice if we could show a little more restraint in the area of 
> "including the previous text in the reply."
>
> Mark McKee
> Multimedia Development Specialist
> Course Development Group
> New Media & Extended Learning
> The University of New Mexico
> 505-277-0691
>
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