[Fmpro] ASCAP Composer bill of rights

Wed May 7 17:35:48 GMT 2008

Kevin its great you have taken an interest in your fellow composers  
enough to post all that! Now take considerably less energy and talk  
about the ASCAP Composer bill of rights drafted by Mark Northam and  
published at the Composer's Forum here:

http://composersforum.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=773368%3ATopic%3A37019

If you have trouble signing up on the free composer's forum site that  
Chris Merritt put together just tell me and I can help. If you really  
don't want to join the forum but want to contribute just reply with  
your ideas on this list.

The general state of apathy among composers to have their lives  
treated with dignity and respect is continually amazing me! And I  
guarantee you there would be a whole lot less "ascap bashing" on this  
list if every member took 10 minutes of their precious time and  
contributed to the 12 things we want as composers from the PRO we  
indirectly pay to represent us.

Every one of you upset about ASCAP should be ashamed for bitching  
about ascap and not offering to our collective what you want from  
them. Every one of you not upset about ASCAP should still be  
interested in speaking your mind at least this once, and help shape  
the list of 12 requirements to be fair and just for all composers.

There have been 2 replies to date. TWO. That is less than  
reprehensible. And you claim you are a professional composer or  
someone aspiring to be one? Either way, it is your responsibility to  
discuss these issues if you have ever or plan to ever be compensated a  
penny as a composer. I am willing to put several thousand dollars of  
my time as a web developer into building an app to create a petition  
and sign it electronically like ascap did last month. But you guys got  
to get behind me on this a little bit

Christopher Kennedy Alpiar
Cinematic Composer
937.294.0900 (Dayton Studio)
310.339.9603 (Los Angeles)
877.294.0912 (Toll Free)
www.alpiar.com

On May 7, 2008, at 1:15 PM, Kevin Mathie wrote:

> Marinho,
>
> Wow. Well stated! Thank you! I've thought this same thing a hundred
> times, but, being a relatively new poster (I've lurked on this list
> for almost two years, but have rarely posted until very recently), I
> wouldn't have dared say anything "out loud" to the list.
>
> It's not that I've minded getting all that info about royalties. On
> the contrary, it's been highly informative, and I've really
> appreciated the information. But, when that's all the list contains
> day after day, it gets pretty old. So many times over the past couple
> years, I've thought of unsubscribing, because the list seemed to just
> harp on the one subject, but every time I'd get ready to unsubscribe,
> someone would make a really interesting post on some other subject,
> and I would think, "Ah! This is the kind of info I thought I was
> going to get when I first joined!" And, I'd hold off on unsubscribing.
>
> So, I too am glad to see the recent change. It's what a list like
> this ought to be. Again, I'm not saying we shouldn't bitch about
> ASCAP or anything else under the sun. I'm just saying that there
> needs to be room for a large variety of subjects.
>
> I've said it before, and I'll say it again: For those folks who would
> like to reach more composers in an effort to build a composer's guild
> or something with enough clout to make an actual difference with
> ASCAP, the first step you ought to make is to increase the readership
> of this list, but that won't happen unless the diversity of subject
> matter gets much more broad. Ironically, if you decrease the ASCAP-
> bitching and increase the number of readers, the more impact you'll
> have when you do bitch about ASCAP.
>
> Anyway, thanks, Marinho, for your post.
>
> Kevin
>
>
> On May 7, 2008, at 6:00 AM, fmpro-request at nxport.com wrote:
>
>> Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 12:09:13 -0400
>> From: "Marinho Nobre" <marinho at manommg.com>
>> Subject: [Fmpro]  Marinho's ASCAP
>> To: <fmpro at nxport.com>
>> Message-ID: <003101c8af93$87b21f30$6501a8c0 at ownerc17n0sv6y>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> [...snip...]
>> Do you think the repetition of my ASCAP post bored you and wasted
>> your time ?
>>
>> How does it feel ?
>>
>> Now think of the other chunk  of seasoned and newcoming composers  
>> that
>> open this post daily in the hope of finding great info about
>> composer sites, music forms,
>> new gear, ways to promote themselves and get cue writting advice
>> from other composers
>> only to find rows and rows of your royalty mumbling crap ? Have you
>> guys stopped for just
>> one second to realize how selfish you are all being ? You got nerve.
>
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